shafer@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov (06/30/89)
From: shafer@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov I would like to amplify a couple of points that came up in some recent postings of mine. I said that the stall/spin/departure characteristics of fighters are determined by the forebody flow and the stall/spin/departure characteristics of transport and general aviation aircraft are determined by the wing flow. It would be more accurate to replace the word `fighters' with the phrase `aircraft with long, slender, pointed forebodies' and to replace `transport and general aviation aircraft' with `aircraft with short, fat, blunt forebodies.' The reason that the long, slender, pointed forebody has such an effect of the dynamic characteristic is that powerful vortices are generated by such forebodies. When these vortices are asymmetric, large asymmetric forces are generated at the nose of the aircraft. In aircraft with short, fat, blunt forebodies, only very small vortices, if any, are generated and the stalling (loss of lift) of the wing provides the major components of the stall/spin/departure characteristics. In a later posting, I said that the F-104 didn't originally have nose cannon or podded cannons for ground attack. This is half right, half wrong. The F-104 did have a nose cannon right from the beginning, but the podded cannon were developed later. I was led astray by the F-104N (N is for NASA). The F-104N was a model made expressly for the NASA Flight Research Center (now Ames-Dryden Flight Research Facility) for use as safety chase and pilot proficiency. They had no cannon, radar, etc, since these were just extra weight (it's not considered good form for the safety chase aircraft to shoot down the test aircraft :-)). Three F-104Ns were delivered. These three aircraft are just about the only aircraft we ever got brand new, except for some of the X-planes. We subsequently obtained a number of CF-104s and TF-104Gs--two of the latter and about five of the former. The armament was removed from all of these. One single-seater was lost in a crash, one turned into a reaction-control testbed and is hanging in the National Air & Space Museum, one is in the Doolittle (?) Museum here at Edwards, and the others are mothballed here at Dryden. One of the two-seaters is still flying (it's got about 50 hours left and will then be mothballed) and the other is mothballed here. -- M F Shafer shafer@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center arpa!elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov!shafer Dryden Flight Research Facility ames!elxsi!shafer Of course I don't speak for NASA