[sci.military] Depleted Uranium rounds & armor

military@cbnews.ATT.COM (William B. Thacker) (07/12/89)

From: brspyr1.brs.com!miket (Mike Trout)
In sci.military Digest  Monday, 10 July, 1989  Volume 2 : Issue 41 "Nicholas 
C. Hester" <IA80024%MAINE.BITNET%CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> writes:

> > DU is extremely hard, and denser than tungsten (or lead); these two 
> > properties make it an excellent choice for kinetic energy armor 
> > penetrators. [ ... ]  An added bonus of DU is that it is somewhat 
> > pyrophoric; that is, it is easy to ignite (say, by slamming it into a 
> > metal plate at a few thousand feet per second 8-); this gives it an added 
> > incendiary >effect, which may or may not be useful against tanks.  -  Bill ]

> This is interesting in that the Army is going to add DU to the armor of the 
> M1.  Will this help protect the tank, or possibly create a greater incendiary
> situation? 

In one installment of "For Your Eyes Only" in the old _Strategy_&_Tactics_, I
recall a brief discussion on depleted uranium rounds.  One interesting point
raised (that I have not heard mentioned since) was _S&T's_ contention that upon
encountering massive G forces (such as would occur upon striking armor at high 
speed), a DU round will emit an intensely lethal but extremely brief burst of
radiation.  They claimed this could very well be fatal to armor crews, even if
the round did no other damage.  Does this sound logical?  I have the issue and
can dig it out with some effort, if anybody wants the specifics.
 
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MJackson.Wbst@Xerox.COM (07/13/89)

From: MJackson.Wbst@Xerox.COM
> In one installment of "For Your Eyes Only" in the old
_Strategy_&_Tactics_,
> I recall a brief discussion on depleted uranium rounds.  One interesting 
> point raised (that I have not heard mentioned since) was _S&T's_
contention
> that upon encountering massive G forces (such as would occur upon
striking 
> armor at high speed), a DU round will emit an intensely lethal but 
> extremely brief burst of radiation.

Almost certainly bogus.  These are *nuclear* reactions you're talking
about, "massive" G forces wouldn't do squat.

Why, you might as well try inducing fusion by electrolysis!  :-)

Mark

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dcn@cbnewsd.ATT.COM (david.c.newkirk) (07/13/89)

From: dcn@cbnewsd.ATT.COM (david.c.newkirk)
Assuming the DU round is pure U238, it would occasionally fission spontaneously
and in the presence of fast neutrons.  A small DU bullet hitting a tank would
not do anything special.  If there was some U235 left in the bullet, then
there is a possibility that a small amount of U235 could be compressed to a
near critical density, generating a burst of slow neutrons that could penetrate
the tank armor and injure the crew.  But without a source of neutrons to start
the fission process in U235, even this method is unlikely to do anything.  It
would depend on a natural source of neutrons (a U238 atom happening to fission
at the correct instant, or a stray cosmic ray hitting something and generating
a neutron), which would make the weapon unreliable.