[net.auto] Tire recommendation

alanj@shark.UUCP (02/24/84)

(This line sacrificed to the network gods...)

In response to the request for a tire recomendation:

A couple of months ago I put some Pirelli P77's on my 280ZX and
couldn't be happier.  

	o Excellent in heavy rain.  I had no problems with hydoplaning
	  even in standing water on the freeway (up to ~65mph)

	o I've driven on packed and unpacked snow and ice in the mountains
	  with no problems.

	o Good sticky tires on dry pavement.

The tab was 350.00 for four, mounted and computer balanced (including a
Tektronix employee discount).

If the requester is not concerned about adverse weather, I hear good things
about the Pirelli P7.

	-Alan Jeddeloh
	{decvax, ucbvax}!tektronix!tekecs!alanj

kds@intelca.UUCP (Ken Shoemaker) (03/30/84)

I, also, have nothing but good things to say about Pirellis.  They
came on my car from the factory (it is a VW rabbit) and the
first set lasted 71,000 miles (and the wear bars weren't even
showing).  I'm not so much into "performance," but I have no
complaints about their wet traction, and they do really well in
the mountains in the winter (although it's hard to tell how much
of that is the car...).
-- 
Ken Shoemaker, Intel, Santa Clara, Ca.
{pur-ee,hplabs,ucbvax!amd70,ogcvax!omsvax}!intelca!kds

seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (D.A. Seifert) (04/03/84)

> If the tires are squealing, then they aren't sticking. If they
> squeal on acceleration, then you aren't accelerating as fast as
> you can, and if they squeal in a corner, then you aren't going
> through the corner as fast as you can.

Actually, you probably *are* going as fast as you can, *with
those tires*.  The fastest acceleration possible is when the
tires are turning 10-15% faster than they normally would at the
same  speed. (slight squeel) Full tilt wheel spinning looks
and sounds impressive, but doesn't get you anywhere.  Same
for braking.  Maximum deceleration occurs when the wheels
turn 10-15% slower than they want to.  Locking them up
produces less deceleration, flat-spots your tires, and
renders your steering wheel useless.

The rest of the article was correct. Softer tires will have
better traction, and won't squeel at the same speed. They
will let you go faster before they start to lose traction
(and start squeeling). Warning: better (read: faster) tires
will let you go faster before they squeel, but will give
less warning before they let go completely.  Then you've
got a real handful trying to save it, since you're now
going very fast when they let go.

as they say, "keep the rubber side down"
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falken@uiuccsb.UUCP (04/04/84)

#R:intelca:-24300:uiuccsb:5800011:000:318
uiuccsb!falken    Apr  3 17:54:00 1984


   I bought 4 of those nice BF Goodrich TA's about a year and a half
ago.  2 days later, the two on the passenger side blew up when I hit
a pothole in the Lake Tahoe area going approx. 30 mph.  Granted,
they stick very nicely.  But as a warning to prospective buyers, they
also blow up quite nicely too.

      BCF