Brian Ross (bxr307@coombs.anu.oz) (11/06/89)
From: Brian Ross (bxr307@coombs.anu.oz) Aircraft are often lost off carriers in rough weather. I know of one case here a few years ago, in Australia before we lost our carrier (to the economists, not an enemy :-(). The HMAS `Melbourne' was steaming in rough seas in the Tasman Sea (the patch of water between Australia and New Zealand) and they were maneauvring an A4 Skyhawk in deck. The aircraft got out of control and before the deck crew new what was happening, "SPLASH" over the side went the aircraft. It seems that it was not that unusual and the Navy, while obviously upset just put it down to costs of operating a carrier. I also know of a case where the US Navy lost an A4 off a lift in rough seas near Guam in 1969. It was unfortunately carring a H-bomb. There has been a lot of flak of late in the Australian and Japanese press of late as it has only just been officially admitted to. What interested me most about the episode on the Eisenhower was that they lost 38 air-to-air missile which were obviously being transfered from the magazine to the flight deck via the ordinary aircraft lifts. Why weren't they using the armoured ammunition lifts which are designed to transport the various types of ammunition needed by the aircraft up an armoured trunking to the flight deck? As these lifts are designed to prevent the possiblity of a magazine fire/explosion and are actually inside the ship (unlike the aircraft lifts in most US carriers which are on the outside of the hull) would it have been more sensible to have used them instead of the aircraft lifts for transfering ammunition? Was it case of someone doing something he shouldn't have? If so it was very expensive! _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- | Brian Ross |Snail Mail:- "Bill Bracket the self-made man who came| in a a packet" | Brian Ross ----------------------------------------| Sociology Dept.R.S.S.S. E-Mail Addresses:- bxr307@coombs.anu.oz | Australian National University | CANBERRA,A.C.T.,2601, bxr307@csc.anu.oz | AUSTRALIA | _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
spikes@hplabs.hp.com (Bill Spikes) (11/09/89)
From: spikes@hplabs.hp.com (Bill Spikes) Those external elevators are good for offloading, too. The Hancock once offloaded an A4 and an F8 from its starboard elevator onto the Camden while unrepping. Too bad the Camden was a supply ship. The aircraft landed upside down on pallets of 250 pounders. No one was hurt, at least not physically.