[sci.military] WWII bum torpedos

budden@manta.nosc.mil (Rex A. Buddenberg) (11/24/89)

From: budden@manta.nosc.mil (Rex A. Buddenberg)

The bad firing mechanism story is a classic case of the torpedo
designers <knowing> their work was good and not wanting to be
confused by the facts.  So a great deal of the reports
coming from PacFlt were ignored at the SysCom (then BuWepss) level.

It is quite likely that the cork getting pried out of the bottle
came from the intel community -- specifically the codebreakers in
Hawaii.  The Japanese kept insisting on using ships that submarines
had claimed sunk.  They were also referring to the torpedo failures
in the message traffic which was decoded by Rochefort, Layton et al.

The signals intelligence stuff gets read at the CNO level, so with
a bit of finishing of the intel, the case was put before Adm King.
Suddenly, the Emperor's clothes came off and the problem got solved.

Rex Buddenberg

johnhall@microsoft.UUCP (John Hall) (11/27/89)

From: johnhall@microsoft.UUCP (John Hall)


In the book _Submarine Commander_ by Schwartz (I think I got it
right) he has several comments on the bum WWII torpedos.

He refused to maintain the torpedo engines (which were reliable)
and had his crew look at the control / fuse mechanisms instead
(a strict no-no by regulations.)

The primary modification he made was increasing the tension
on one of the components from 15# to about 50#.  He had been
told infomally that the tension had been wound up to 70# without
breakage.  He believed that the increased tension prevented
sea water from entering the mechanism, and his ships had few
problems.

He also mentioned that most submariners like himself thought
that testing the A bomb in the desert was a waste of beautiful
scenery when the Naval torpedo station was available ...