[sci.military] Dismissal appeal

major@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Mike Schmitt) (04/12/90)

From: ssc-vax!shuksan!major@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Mike Schmitt)

In article <15263@cbnews.ATT.COM>, jmh@ns.network.com (Joel Halpern) writes:
> 
> 
> From: jmh@ns.network.com (Joel Halpern)
> A person of my aquaintance is about to be dismissed from his
> Air Nation Guard unit, for various reasons.  From what I
> understand of the situation, he should be entitled to
> (but is not getting) a medical discharge.  Is there any way
> for him to appeal this situation?  Is there any way to 
> determine if the folks in his unit are violating policy in
> the way they are dismissing him?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel M. Halpern			jmh@nsco.network.com
> Network Systems Corporation


  Yes, run don't walk to the nearest Air Force JAG (Judge Advocate General)
  office (military lawyer types) and ask for help.  If JAG cant (wont)
  help - get civilian counsel.  This looks like some sort of administrative
  discharge - but shouldn't be done without some sort of administrative
  board proceedings.   However, "various reasons" might allow his unit
  to administratively discharge him without any action or appeal - 
  depends on the situation.   Sounds like a 'medical discharge' as unfit
  for military service ????????????

  I'm not sure if "administrative discharges" fall in the category - but
  there is always the U.S. Court of Military Appeals (maybe that's only
  for court-martial cases???)


  Anybody else have advice?



  mike schmitt
 

cmr@cvedc.Prime.Com (Chesley Reyburn) (04/14/90)

From: cmr@cvedc.Prime.Com (Chesley Reyburn)
In article <15500@cbnews.ATT.COM> ssc-vax!shuksan!major@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Mike Schmitt) writes:
>In article <15263@cbnews.ATT.COM>, jmh@ns.network.com (Joel Halpern) writes:
>> A person of my aquaintance is about to be dismissed from his
>  Anybody else have advice?

A trip(s) to the IG(s) probably wouldn't hurt.

As I recall there used to be something about appealing after you
were out but that was for Bad Conduct Discharges.

I know that the VA will re-examine medical conditions after
discharge to determine the level of assistance that they
should give (percent of disability).

One thing to do for the 'medical' condition would be to document it
with a civilian specialist(s).

What we need is for Mr. Halpern to tell us the regulation numbers
under which this action is being taken. Then someone of us who
has access to the relevant regs can tell us what is going on.
It would also help to know about the 'various reasons'.

Addiction to, or use of drugs, is certainly a medical problem but not always
recognized as such by the powers that be. Mainly because they tell
you not to do it going in. Therefore using drugs appears to transcend the
medical domain into disobedience.

Of course there is the old adage about never giving an order that
won't be followed.

A pre-existing medical condition is something that I don't know
about.

I think that the most important thing that Mr. Halpern's friend can
do is to NOT SIGN ANYTHING until they have received good advice and
counsel.

cmr
Sp4/E4 (Ret.)
Former Courts and Boards Clerk
575th Trans Bn.
7th Army Support Command