[net.auto] squealing disk brake

murray@t4test.UUCP (Murray Lane) (04/04/84)

My 1980 Honda station wagon's front left brake squeals. I have pulled the
wheel, and everything looks fine. When driving, there is no perceptible
drag or pulling to one side. It is simply a nuscience (sp?). Does
anybody have a suggestion on how to get rid of the noise?

				Murray at Intel @ t4test

an@hou2h.UUCP (A.NGUYEN) (04/05/84)

The disc brake on my bike squealed when new, too.  It went away by
itself.  One thing I've heard is that some pads have some slop in
their caliper so they vibrate when you drive, and when they vibrate
into contact with the disc, they squeal.  Heavy grease on the
BACKSIDE of the pads to damp out this vibration will fix this.

	Au

swd@hou2a.UUCP (S.DESSAUER) (04/05/84)

I had the same problem with my 280ZX recently.  A local mechanic
referred to it as "chattering brake pads".  The remedy for this
syndrome was the one used by Mercedez Benz; the end of the pads
are beveled at a 45 degree angle (degree of angle can be disputed).

Example:

       old -   __________        new -     ________
              |          |                /        \
              |          |                |        |

This did eliminate my squeling brakes; now I sneak by the state
troopers with NO problems.  I hope this will help you.

lrd@druri.UUCP (DuBroffLR) (04/06/84)

This has been the subject of much discussion in this group in the past.
The pads on disk brakes will sometimes vibrate at high frequencies,
causing a squeal.  Your local auto parts store should have a product
called "Disk Brake Quiet" (an indicative name), or other similarly
named products.  These products are aerosol foams or thick liquids that
are applied to the back side of the brake pad (NOT the side that
contacts the disk rotor and creates the braking action).  The goop that
has been applied dries -- or, rather sets, to a gel whose purpose is to
damp the vibrations that are causing the squeal.  I haven't used these
products, but have heard from people who have; some report the problem
totally cured and others say no effect.  In any event, no harm is done,
the (attempted) cure is not expensive, and doesn't take very much
time.

bossert@ssc-vax.UUCP (John Bossert) (04/06/84)

Possibly an easy fix is to replace the factory brake pads
with "metalic" pads.  This worked like a charm on my car.
It will also eliminate any "dusting" problem.
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				John Bossert
				Boeing Computer Services
				Seattle, WA
				uw-beaver!ssc-vax!bossert

roger@felix.UUCP (04/10/84)

Regarding metallic brake pads...

Be warned, however, that if you use metallic pads, one typical
result is that the disks themselves wear out MUCH faster.  And
the disks cost a lost more to replace.

Roger Webster

	(...ucbvax!trwrb!felix!roger)

pmk@spuxll.UUCP (04/13/84)

Metallic pads have another problem, they don't work very well when cold.
Any one with an automatic transmission will have great difficulty in
keeping the car from creeping until the pads and/or shoes warmed up.
Once warmed up, these pads have superior braking ability to the standard
pads. A fair tradeoff if you cand stand it.

					P Kelliher
					AT&T-ISL
					S Plainfield, NJ