[net.auto] More on Trucks

wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (04/11/84)

As long as the subject of trucks has come up, I would like
to say that it always boggles my mind when I see some lunkhead
in a Honda (insert any other car name) cut in front of an 18-wheeler
on the freeway.  They seem to think that because the truck has 18
wheels, it has 18 times more stopping power.  I see this manuver
nearly every morning and evening on our local super-slab.  

To cut in front of one of these rigs is akin to committing suicide
if they have to stop quickly.  The truck driver has probably taken
great pains to maintain a reasonable distance between him and the next
car just in case he has to stop.  When one of these dimwits slides
into that space, the ability to bring the truck to a stop without
hitting the next car is reduced tremendously.  

I travel the local freeways and toll roads with a CB on and it has
been a source of much good information.  I listen to the truck
drivers and have gained a lot of insight to their problems.  I
would say that over 90% of the truck drivers are helpful and
understanding when you try to find out about what their problems
are all about.  The major complaint of most drivers is the constant
weaving in and out by the four-wheelers.  Then there is the pee-brain
who zips in front of a big truck at the top of a grade, poops along
at 55 down hill, then whips up the next grade at 70, leaving the
truck at the bottom with no momentum to get up the hill without
shifting down 3 or 4 gears.

Using a little common sense when confronted with a highway full
of 18-wheelers can save a life.  Do not eat up the truckers
margin of stopping distance by slipping into the space between
him and the next car.  Do not play fast and slow in hilly sections.
I don't mean to say that there are not any truckers who are 
a**holes.  On the other hand, there are a lot of 4-wheel drivers
who just do not understand the complexity of driving a
K-whopper with 70 bushels (that's 70,000 lbs in CB talk) of
dog food down a three lane highway, surrounded by commuters, and
only able to use the two right lanes.  

As to the guy in Connecticut, he should have gotten 20 years for
just being a rotten apple in the industry.  Other truckers who
have been discussing the case the past few days are saying the
same thing.  These guys drive trucks for a living.  If you want
a more boring job, try it some time.  Getting into accidents is
not their idea of having a nice day.  
T. C. Wheeler

pmk@spuxll.UUCP (04/13/84)

If you notice, those same a**holes also cut in front of just about anything
that moves, so dog owners beware.  It seems that a driver's stupidity is in a
inverse proportion to the size of his car. How many times have you encountered 
some maniac in a small car (especially a Rabbit or Beetle) who has to try
to pass everything in sight. These people have very little regard for life,
be it theirs or anyone elses.  Worst of all, the police just ignore these 
idiots. This is making it more and more difficult to resist the temptation 
to run these morons off the road. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

						P Kelliher 
						AT&T-ISL
						S Plainfield, NJ

an@hou2h.UUCP (A.NGUYEN) (04/16/84)

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> Wheeler:
> .. it always boggles my mind when I see some lunkhead in a Honda
> cut in front of an 18-wheeler on the freeway.

> Kelliher:
> It seems that a driver's stupidity is in a inverse proportion to
> the size of his car. How many times have you encountered some maniac
> in a small car (especially a Rabbit or Beetle) who has to try to pass
> everything in sight.

Hold on there Buckos!  You guys got something against small cars?
I've seen plenty of people driving big cars pulling the same shit
you guys describe, too!  Don't make generalizations unless you are
prepared to put your foot in your mouth.

And remember, assholes come in all sizes, shapes, and colors.

		Au

wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (04/17/84)

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Hold on there Au.  I have never owned a gas guzzler.  I drive a Honda
and a Datsun right now.  I have driven, in the past, Bugs(4), Toyota,
Lark, and Anglia.  The Garden State Parkway has a very large proportion
of small cars on it during the rush hour.  In my observations over the
past year on bothe the GSP and hwy 287, I have observed that the smaller
cars do much more of the popping in and out of tight spots than the
monsters.  The bigger cars just plow ahead, usually at less than the
speed of the surrounding traffic, but that's another problem.  I used to
love the Bug owners who bragged that they could go anywhere in the snow.
I usually passed them somewhere on the road as they were trying to
dig two feet of snow out from under their wheels. 

I do not mean to malign the cautious driver, be they big or small car
drivers.  I was just trying to point out that there are brainless
idiots out there who try to squeeze into spaces where they ought
not to be.  The most brainless are those who do this little trick
in front of an 18-wheeler at 70 mph.  There have been countless times
that some dummy has done this only to have the car in front of him
slam on the brakes and then the truck try to turn his car into an
accordian.  The Trucker gets the blame for following too close.
Of course this makes the family of the dummy happy as they plant
him 6-feet under.  

When a small car driver pulls this stunt, their chances of survival
are a hell of a lot less than for someone in a Detroit Tank.  Why
add to the probability rating for a fatal accident by shortening
the stopping distance of the driver behind you?  I saw this very thing
this morning again when some dimbulb in a little yellow MG pulled in
in front of another guy who was already tailgating causing the guy behind
to slam on his brakes to avoid him, and, causing the driver of a
Peterbuilt tanker to jump on the air to keep from clobbering both of them.
Ther was less than two feet between the MGs front bumper and the next guy,
and the back bumper and the guy behind.  He was just damn lucky the
truck driver was alert and had good brakes or I would still be out there
explaining it to the staties. 

T. C. Wheeler

an@hou2h.UUCP (A.NGUYEN) (04/18/84)

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> Wheeler:
> .. The smaller cars do much more of the popping in and out of tight
> spots than the monsters. The bigger cars just plow ahead ..

It's no accident (!) that little cars are a lot more responsive than
big cars.  Detroit Boats are so ponderous that the average Joe/Jane
Motorist simply doesn't have the reflexes to "pop in and out" of
traffic.  (Of course, the average American also have such a fat neck
that it's painful to turn its head to check the blind spot, but that's
another story.)

NOTE THAT I AM *NOT* CONDONING OR ENCOURAGING SLOPPY DRIVING HABITS!
I believe that everyone should be held accountable for what they do.
If they die, so be it.

> When a small car driver [cuts off others], [his] chances of survival
> are a hell of a lot less than for someone in a Detroit Tank.

You have not heard the theory that little cars just get bunted out
of the way when hit, rather than resist and get crumpled.  Open to
debate of course.

> I was just trying to point out that there are brainless idiots out
> there who try to squeeze into spaces where they ought not to be.

Fine, I'm not stopping you.  Just remove any implication that small
car drivers are suicidal maniacs.

> I used to love the Bug owners who bragged that they could go anywhere
> in the snow. I usually passed them somewhere on the road as they were
> trying to dig two feet of snow out from under their wheels. 

Bugs *can* go quite a few places with those tall and skinny tyres. 
Skinny to better cut through the slush and bite on terra firma; and
tall to ride over ruts, not follow them.  Of course, there are
always those who exceed the limits of the machine and go into the
ditch, but that's not really the Bug's fault.

	Au