miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) (07/24/90)
From: "Stephen D. Grant" <miles@ms.uky.edu> I got back from the U.S. Air and Trade Show in Dayton on Saturday, and was glad I went. There were lots of interesting things to see, and for the first time, there was a Soviet presence there. The Soviets had sent a large Cargo/Transport (Antonov Model) along with 2 Migoyan MiG-29 Fulcrums. These were trully unique aircraft, being practically a cross between the U.S. F-16 and F-15,14. The pilots seemed very comfortable, and provided a good show for all. There were T-shirts and memorabelia from their tour also. In this age of thawing relations, and a renewed friendship and cooperation between the East and West, I think it is wonderful that the U.S. permitted and the Soviets wanted to jump on the Airshow bandwagon. The Soviet presence is not solely to show off Eastern military hardware. The actual tour which they are making is funded totally by the aircrafts manufacturers, Migoyan. The Kremlin is paying nothing for this 'outing'. Let's hope in the years to come, we will see more of the Soviets in the U.S. airshows and perhaps that someday, (not too long at current rates in Europe) the U.S. and other NATO countries can tour in a similar way in the USSR. Miles ============================================================================= Stephen D. Grant, "Miles" | "I've had a few optional Extras Installed.." - 007 miles@s.ms.uky.edu | =============================================================================
steve@uunet.UU.NET (Steve Nuchia) (07/30/90)
From: nuchat!steve@uunet.UU.NET (Steve Nuchia) >From: "Stephen D. Grant" <miles@ms.uky.edu> >tour which they are making is funded totally by the aircrafts >manufacturers, Migoyan. The Kremlin is paying nothing for this 'outing'. The Kremlin is still the majority shareholder in Migoyan, in case we've forgotten. :-) To say the Kremlin pays nothing is, in my opinion, to buy into a false dichotomy. It is a dichotomy that comes naturally to the American mind, and our new Soviet friends have become quite adept at presenting their public relations stories in ways that "sound right" to us. Just because they aren't the bad guys any more doesn't mean we have to swallow it. On the other hand, it isn't much different from U.S. defense contractors scoring PR points while burying the cost in guaranteed-profit contracts.
shafer@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) (07/31/90)
From: Mary Shafer <shafer@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov> Steve Nuchia (nuchat!steve@uunet.UU.NET) writes: >From: "Stephen D. Grant" <miles@ms.uky.edu> >tour which they are making is funded totally by the aircrafts >manufacturers, Migoyan. The Kremlin is paying nothing for this 'outing'. The Kremlin is still the majority shareholder in Migoyan, in case we've forgotten. :-) It's Mikoyan, not Migoyan. The MiG designation comes (transliterated) from Mikoyan-Gurgevich. Hence the peculiar capitalization. ^^ ^ [mod.note: Rats, I should have caught that. Well, not to make the same mistake twice, it's "Mikoyan-Gurevich", only one "g". 8-) - Bill ] -- Mary Shafer shafer@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov ames!skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov!shafer NASA Ames Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA Of course I don't speak for NASA "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all"--Unknown US fighter pilot