[sci.military] F-104 Starfighter

henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (08/11/90)

From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
>From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
>The biggest customer was West Germany.  In the 60's and 70's there were
>multiple scandals about its accident rate.

The most interesting thing about the German F-104 accident rate was that
the Royal Norwegian Air Force operated exactly the same model of Starfighter
for nearly a decade before their first fatal accident.  There is fairly
good evidence that the Luftwaffe Starfighter accident rate had a lot more
to do with poor maintenance and inadequately-trained pilots than with
inherent defects in the aircraft, although it was unquestionably a "hot"
and unforgiving plane.  In retrospect, it was a poor choice for a relatively
young and unsophisticated conscript-based air force like the early
postwar Luftwaffe.

>The F-104 ejection seat fired _down_...

Remember that the F-104 was designed in the mid-50s, when it was not so
easy to be sure that an ejection seat could clear a high tail.  That's
why the downward ejection.  It wasn't too unreasonable in what was meant
to be a high-altitude dogfighter.

Note also that the Luftwaffe replaced the downward-firing seats with
Martin-Baker upward-firing seats fairly early, because this was a fairly
obvious safety problem.  It didn't help much.  (The Norwegians, by the
way, didn't bother with the change, since they weren't having accidents.)

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