holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) (08/29/90)
From: holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) If not, why not? -- Brian Holtz (holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM)
nak%archie@att.att.com (Neil A Kirby) (08/30/90)
From: nak%archie@att.att.com (Neil A Kirby)
In article <1990Aug29.014749.8261@cbnews.att.com> holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) writes:
Yes it can. The cargo capacity for a C5 is over 100 tons, and the
Abrams is, I believe, in the 45-50 ton range. So it can carry two, and
not much else.
Neil Kirby
...att!archie!nakjohnson@amsaa-seer.brl.mil (Don Johnson) (08/31/90)
From: Don Johnson <johnson@amsaa-seer.brl.mil> In article <1990Aug29.014749.8261@cbnews.att.com> holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) writes: > >If not, why not? Yes it can carry one. And only one! -- W. Donald Johnson O tempora! O mores! Operations Research Analyst johnson@amsaa-seer.brl.mil
terryr@ogicse.ogi.edu (Terry Rooker) (08/31/90)
From: terryr@ogicse.ogi.edu (Terry Rooker) In article <1990Aug29.014749.8261@cbnews.att.com> holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) writes: > > >If not, why not? It can. There is space enough for at least 2 M1's. There original design also allowed a lifting capacity for 2, but due to stress problems with the wings, the allowable load was reduced to allow only 1. In the current emergency, I don't know how important they consider the stress problem. The load masters I worked with were under the impression that if the AF ever needed the capacity, the load limit would disappear quickly. -- Terry Rooker terryr@cse.ogi.edu
olorin@wam.umd.edu (David John Schuetz) (08/31/90)
From: olorin@wam.umd.edu (David John Schuetz) In article <1990Aug29.014749.8261@cbnews.att.com> holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) writes: [re a C-5A carrying a M-1 Abrams] >If not, why not? Theoretically, a C-5A can carry two M-1 Abrams; however, pilots refuse to fly with that load. So, you have to sealift them, or fly them incredibly inefficently. What I find unbelievable is that the Army, not satisfied with the 60-ton Abrams, is STILL pushing for a new 80-ton tank that not only is unairliftable, it will crush any bridge it tries to cross. And we complain about congress screwing up the military... Laura Burchard
jln@portia.Stanford.EDU (Jared Nedzel) (08/31/90)
From: jln@portia.Stanford.EDU (Jared Nedzel) In article <1990Aug29.014749.8261@cbnews.att.com} holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) writes: }From: holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) }Can a C-5A carry an M-1 Abrams? }If not, why not? Yes, it can carry one. The M-1 weighs 60 tons and it's quite wide as well. No other US aircraft can carry one. Considering, however, the limited number of C-5As, the ability to carry an M-1 Abrams doesn't buy us much. To practically move a significant armoured force, we need to rely on sea lift. Which is why the 24th Mechanized (which only has ~180 M-1s) went to Saudi Arabia by sea. }Brian Holtz (holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM) -- Jared L. Nedzel --------------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: nedzel@cive.stanford.edu jln@portia.stanford.edu
skidrow@ceres.ucsc.edu (Gary M. Lin) (09/02/90)
From: skidrow@ceres.ucsc.edu (Gary M. Lin) holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) writes: >From: holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) >If not, why not? >-- >Brian Holtz (holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM) Yes, the C-5A is the only air transport capable of ferrying an Abrams M-1. Though the problem is that you can't load much else with it, so it isn't economical. The figure I heard someplace was a C-5A could do only ONE M-1 and a platoon or so due to the tremendous mass of the tank. - Gary M. Lin skidrow@ceres.ucsc.edu