[sci.military] Pods on C-123?

quodling@bunyip.enet.dec.com (Peter Quodling) (10/04/90)

From: quodling@bunyip.enet.dec.com (Peter Quodling)


I had the chance to watch "Air America" the other day, but was intrigued by the
planes that were being used. The small Pilatus Porter's, I am familiar with,
but the Larger C-123's had me wondering. On each wing, they have 3 pods.
Inboard is the Engine, Outboard, looks like a fuel pod, but in the center was
something that looked a little like a very small Jet engine. Does anyone know
what those middle pods are?


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v059l49z@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Paul C Stacy) (10/05/90)

From: v059l49z@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Paul C Stacy)

In article <1990Oct4.012016.10621@cbnews.att.com>, quodling@bunyip.enet.dec.com (Peter Quodling) writes...
> 
>I had the chance to watch "Air America" the other day, but was intrigued by the
>planes that were being used. The small Pilatus Porter's, I am familiar with,
>but the Larger C-123's had me wondering. On each wing, they have 3 pods.
>Inboard is the Engine, Outboard, looks like a fuel pod, but in the center was
>something that looked a little like a very small Jet engine. Does anyone know
>what those middle pods are?
> 

They are in fact little jet pods meant mainly for short-field operations.

Incidentily, the C-123 was originally designed to be a glider to my under-
standing.




				Paul

sxdjt@acad3.fai.alaska.edu (TABOR DEAN J) (10/05/90)

From: sxdjt@acad3.fai.alaska.edu (TABOR DEAN J)
In article <1990Oct4.012016.10621@cbnews.att.com>, quodling@bunyip.enet.dec.com (Peter Quodling) writes...
>something that looked a little like a very small Jet engine. Does anyone know
>what those middle pods are?


Things are sometimes what they seem... the C-123 did have 2 small jets to
assist in takeoff.  I don't recall their make or thrust rating...

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geoffm@EBay.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) (10/08/90)

From: geoffm@EBay.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)



In article <1990Oct4.012016.10621@cbnews.att.com> quodling@bunyip.enet.dec.com (Peter Quodling) writes:

>I had the chance to watch "Air America" the other day, but was intrigued by the
>planes that were being used. The small Pilatus Porter's, I am familiar with,
>but the Larger C-123's had me wondering. On each wing, they have 3 pods.
>Inboard is the Engine, Outboard, looks like a fuel pod, but in the center was
>something that looked a little like a very small Jet engine. Does anyone know
>what those middle pods are?


They are jet engines.  The application is similar to that on the P-2 Neptune,
with intake doors that can be closed to prevent windmilling when the engines
aren't running.  I don't know what type they are; they appear to be smaller
than the Wright J-46s on the Neptune.


Geoff


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fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) (10/11/90)

From: fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix)

In article <1990Oct4.012016.10621@cbnews.att.com>, quodling@bunyip.enet.dec.com (Peter Quodling) writes:
> 
> I had the chance to watch "Air America" the other day, but was intrigued by the
> planes that were being used. The small Pilatus Porter's, I am familiar with,

(Back in tyhe old days, they were flying Helio Stallions and Turbo Stallions...)

> but the Larger C-123's had me wondering. On each wing, they have 3 pods.
> Inboard is the Engine, Outboard, looks like a fuel pod, but in the center was
> something that looked a little like a very small Jet engine. Does anyone know
> what those middle pods are?

The thing that looks like a small jet engine is exactly that.  Other
aircraft of the period did the same thing to pick up a bit more performance.

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geoffm@EBay.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) (10/15/90)

From: geoffm@EBay.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)


In article <1990Oct11.050829.29187@cbnews.att.com> fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) writes:

>> I had the chance to watch "Air America" the other day, but was intrigued by the
>> planes that were being used. The small Pilatus Porter's, I am familiar with,
>
>Back in tyhe old days, they were flying Helio Stallions and Turbo Stallions.


Those were Helio Couriers.  The Stallion was a turboprop derivative of the
courier.


Geoff


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ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Nur Iskandar Taib) (10/16/90)

From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Nur Iskandar Taib)
>Those were Helio Couriers.  The Stallion was a turboprop derivative of the
>courier.

Ever see a Helio Courier fly? They had one at the local
airshow. The thing would take off in about 3 or 4 plane 
legths and proceed to almost hover (there was a 15-20mph
wind.. the thing flies at 30 mph). The pilot would make 
turns within 3 or 4 wingspans. Amazing airplane.

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