[sci.military] LAV reactive armor

rushing_tw@lrc.uucp (10/17/90)

From: rushing_tw@lrc.uucp


From: rushing_tw@lrc.uucp
Just a quick note on the reactive armor on the LAV-25 series...There is none.
I have ridden one (LAV with TOW mount) for a while now and have never heard or
seen anything about it.  I don't think that the Marine Corps will stick it
on there either. The LAV is designed as a lightly armored RECON vehicle that
has quite a defensive punch for its size. 

xrtnt@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Nigel Tzeng) (10/18/90)

From: xrtnt@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Nigel Tzeng)
In article <1990Oct17.005650.11474@cbnews.att.com>, rushing_tw@lrc.uucp writes...
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^From: rushing_tw@lrc.uucp
^Just a quick note on the reactive armor on the LAV-25 series...There is none.
^I have ridden one (LAV with TOW mount) for a while now and have never heard or
^seen anything about it.  I don't think that the Marine Corps will stick it
^on there either. The LAV is designed as a lightly armored RECON vehicle that
^has quite a defensive punch for its size. 

Rumor has it that the LAV cannot accept any sort of applique armor.  The
vehicles have "high-hard" armor (described to me as optimised (sp) for
deflecting rounds rather than absorbing them).  The material is thinner than
"normal" (soft steel that is surface hardened) armor and the welds are weaker
(less surface area?).  Adding applique armor results in the vehicle comming
apart at the seams because of the added stress.

The LAV will probably never be more than 7.62mm ball ammo proof.

NT

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greg@uunet.UU.NET (Greg Fabian) (10/26/90)

From: cti1!greg@uunet.UU.NET (Greg Fabian)

  I used to work for a consulting company that had a contract with the
USMC to write computer programs to track the reliability of the LAV.  These
reliabiliy tests involved Marines using the LAV in exercises to 
simulate actual conditions the vehicle would be used.  One incident report
I entered into the data base involved a Marine who accidently discharged
his M 16 inside the hull and blew a hole through the armor.

  Perhaps the most amusing incident report I came across was for testing
of the LVT 7A1, an amphibious personnel carrier.  Seems that an "untrained
personnel" (i.e. a colonel) destroyed the transmission when he tried to
downshift to third but got first gear instead.