[sci.military] Fates of Battleships

mpc@cad.Berkeley.EDU (Morgan Conrad) (11/06/90)

From: biosys!mpc@cad.Berkeley.EDU (Morgan Conrad)
    Since there has recently been some discussion about the final fates
of American battleships, I went back through Breyer to compile a list of
the fates of all post-Dreadnought battleships and battlecruisers sunk 
during wartime.  For some, especially French ships, it is hard 
to define "sunk".  For this list, that is when they are so badly (IMHO)
damaged that they were not capable of sailing effectively for the rest
of that war.  This list is not guaranteed to be perfectly correct.
It is organized by country, then (roughly) by date of commission.
    
    
    Ship            Date        Where            Why, Notes
    
U.K.
   Invincible       31 May 16    Jutland         Lutzow(a)
   Vanguard          9 Jul 17    Scapa Flow      internal explosion
   Indefatigable    31 May 16    Jutland         von der Tann(a)
   Queen Mary       31 May 16    Jutland         Derfflinger & Seydlitz(a)
   Audacious        27 Oct 14    N. Irish coast  mined
   Centurion         9 Jun 44    Normandy        used as breakwater(b)
   Iron Duke        17 Oct 39    Scapa Flow      bombed in harbor(b)
   Barham           25 Nov 41    Egypt coast     torpedoed by U 331
   Royal Oak        14 Oct 39    Scapa Flow      torpedoed by U 47
   Repulse          10 Dec 41    off Kuantan     Japanese air strike
   Courageous       17 Sep 39    W of Ireland    torpedoed by U 29(c)
   Glorious          8 Jun 40    off Norway      Scharnhorst & Gneisenau(c)
   Hood             24 May 41    S of Greenland  Bismark & Prinz Eugen
   Prince of Wales  10 Dec 41    off Kuantan     Japanese air strike
    
U.S.A.
   Utah              7 Dec 41    Pearl Harbor    Japanese air strike
   Oklahoma          7 Dec 41    Pearl Harbor    Japanese air strike
   Arizona           7 Dec 41    Pearl Harbor    Japanese air strike
   Lexington         8 May 42    Coral Sea       Japanese air strike(d)
   
Germany(e)
   Lutzow           31 May 16    Jutland
   Scharnhorst      26 Dec 43    N. Cape         HMS Duke of York et. al.
   Gneisenau        27 Mar 45    Gotenhafen      bombs, scuttled(f)
   Bismark          27 May 41    Bay of Biscay   most of the Royal Navy :-)
   Tirpitz          12 Nov 44    Trosmo          RAF bombs
    
Spain
   Alfonso XIII     30 Apr 37    Santander       mined
    
Japan
   Kongo            21 Nov 44    NW Formosa      torpedoed by USS Sealion
   Hiei             13 Nov 42    Guadalcanal     cruiser shells, torps
   Haruna           19 Mar 45    Kure Harbor     bombed
   Kirishima        15 Nov 42    Savo I          USS Washington
   Fuso             25 Oct 44    Suriago Strait  USS Pennsylvania et. al.
   Yamashiro        25 Oct 44    Suriago Strait  USS Pennsylvania et. al.
   Hyuga            28 Jul 45    Kure Harbor     bombed
   Ise              28 Jul 45    Kure Harbor     bombed
   Mutsu             8 Jun 43    Kure Harbor     internal explosion
   Kaga              5 Jun 42    Midway          US air strike
   Akagi             6 Jun 42    Midway          US air strike
   Yamato            7 Apr 45    Okinawa         US air strike
   Mushashi         24 Oct 44    Luzon           US air strike
   Shinano          29 Nov 44    Cape Muroto     torpedoed by USS Archerfish(e)
    
Italy
   Conte de Cavour  12 Nov 40    Taranto         UK air strike
   Leon. da Vinci    2 Aug 16    Taranto         internal explosion
   Roma              9 Sep 43    La Spezia       German glider bomb
   
Soviet Union
   Petropavlovsk    23 Sep 41    Kronstadt       German air strike(g)
   Imp. Maria       20 Oct 16    Sevastapol      internal explosion
   Ekaterina II     16 Jun 18    Novorossijsk    torpedoed by Kertch
    
Austria-Hungary
   Viribus Unitas    1 Nov 18    Pola            Italian frogmen(h)
   Szent Istvan     11 Jul 18    S. Adriatic     torpedoed by MAS 15
    
France
   Courbet          17 Aug 44    Ouistreham      German minisub(b)
   Jean Bart/Ocean  27 Nov 42    Toulon          scuttled(b)
   Provence          3 Jul 40    Mers el Kebir   HMS Hood et. al.(i)
   Bretagne          3 Jul 40    Mers el Kebir   HMS Hood et. al.
   Dunkerque         3 Jul 40    Mers el Kebir   HMS Hood, Ark Royal et. al.(i)
   Strassbourg      27 Nov 42    Toulon          scuttled
   Jean Bart         8 Nov 42    Casablanca      USS Massachusetts(j)
    
    
(a) The real reason these sunk is they were British battlecruisers :-)
(b) These ships were not active battle line quality when sunk.
(c) These were conversions from unreal capital ships. :-)
(d) These were conversions from real capital ships.
(e) The following ships were scuttled at Scapa Flow 21 June 1919:
    von der Tann, Moltke, Seydlitz, Kaiser, Friedrich der Grosse, Kaiserin, 
    Prinzregent Leitpold, Konig Albert, Konig, Grosser Kurfurst, Markgraf, 
    Kronprinz, Derfflinger, Hindenburg, Bayern.
(f) Arguably, this ship "sunk" during the "Channel Dash", since it was
    never really in fighting shape afterwards.
(g) The main battery continued to provide ground support fire.
(h) This ship actually belonged to the new country of Yugoslavia, for one day
(i) These ships did make it to Toulon, to be scuttled 27 Nov 1942.
(j) By my standards, this ship almost started the battle "sunk".  In any 
    case, it was raised and recommissioned after the war.
    
    
Morgan Conrad            "Always keep your bowler on in times of stress
mpc@apldbio.com           and beware the diabolical Masterminds."
    

welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty) (11/07/90)

From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty)

a couple of notes on Morgan's list

In article <1990Nov6.042753.29732@cbnews.att.com>, Morgan Conrad writes: 
*U.S.A.
*   Utah              7 Dec 41    Pearl Harbor    Japanese air strike

utah was no longer a BB at this time, but a target ship.  probably
should have been labeled a `conversion' in this list.

*Japan
*   Hiei             13 Nov 42    Guadalcanal     cruiser shells, torps

i'm not sure that there were any effective torpedoe hits in this
battle (the first night of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal)

*   Kirishima        15 Nov 42    Savo I          USS Washington

now, is this intended as a battle name or as a location?  Kirishima
was sunk near Savo Island, but not in `The Battle Of Savo Island',
but rather on the last night of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal.
see Hammel, _Guadalcanal: Decision at Sea_ for a detailed account
of the sinkings of Hiei and Kirishima.

*   Kaga              5 Jun 42    Midway          US air strike
*   Akagi             6 Jun 42    Midway          US air strike

these were both carrier conversions from capital ships, and so
should have been marked with (c) or (d) (i'm not sure which.)

*   Shinano          29 Nov 44    Cape Muroto     torpedoed by USS Archerfish(e)

this should have been note (d), not (e) -- Shinano was to have been
the third japanese super battleship, but was converted to a carrier
on the ways after the losses at Midway.

richard
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Allan Bourdius <ab3o+@andrew.cmu.edu> (11/07/90)

From: Allan Bourdius <ab3o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
>U.S.A.
>   Lexington         8 May 42    Coral Sea       Japanese air strike(d)

The USS Lexington (CV-2) was an *aircraft carrier* not a battleship!

Allan

[mod.note:  Correct; but both Lexington and Saratoga were initially
laid down as battlecruisers, and coverted to carriers while under
construction in keeping with the Washington Naval Treaty. - Bill ]