jvz@uunet.uu.net (John V. Zambito) (11/16/90)
From: ccicpg!cci632!jvz@uunet.uu.net (John V. Zambito) In a recent issue of AW&ST I saw a picture of a helicopter with 2 pods of 4 hellfire missiles (what a great name) each. It seems to me that they could fit more than 8 on one helicopter. I would guess that the helicopter has to travel a hundred miles or so before it reaches the enemy. Then it only gets 8 shots and has to return to base. Wouldn't it be better to carry 20 or 30 and really have some fun? How do these Hellfires work anyway? How much do they cost?
gwh%monsoon.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) (11/17/90)
From: gwh%monsoon.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) In article <1990Nov16.052824.22355@cbnews.att.com> ccicpg!cci632!jvz@uunet.uu.net (John V. Zambito) writes: >In a recent issue of AW&ST I saw a picture of a helicopter with 2 >pods of 4 hellfire missiles (what a great name) each. It seems to >me that they could fit more than 8 on one helicopter. I would guess >that the helicopter has to travel a hundred miles or so before it >reaches the enemy. Then it only gets 8 shots and has to return to >base. Wouldn't it be better to carry 20 or 30 and really have some >fun? > >How do these Hellfires work anyway? >How much do they cost? They only carry four or eight or sixteen (depending on various factors like what helicopter it is and what it's doing) because they can't cary any more. In case you didn't notice, most aircraft tend to have limited weight loads 8-) They are tactical antitank (one version is antiship) missiles. Hellfires wiegh about 150 lbs, have a range under most conditions of four miles, and are laser guided. == George William Herbert == **There are only two truly infinite things,** == JOAT for Hire: Anything, == * the universe and stupidity. And I am * =======Anywhere, My Price======= * unsure about the universe. -A.Einstein * == gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu == ********************************************* == ucbvax!ocf!gwh == The OCF Gang: Making Tomorrow's Mistakes Today
megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23) (11/19/90)
From: megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23) In article <1990Nov16.052824.22355@cbnews.att.com> ccicpg!cci632!jvz@uunet.uu.net (John V. Zambito) writes: >In a recent issue of AW&ST I saw a picture of a helicopter with 2 >pods of 4 hellfire missiles (what a great name) each. It seems to >me that they could fit more than 8 on one helicopter. I would guess You probably saw a Bell Huey Cobra. They only have the lifting capacity to carry two pods of four. The Hughes Apache has a capacity of four pods of four. Both helicopters can carry additional weapons at he same time. Plus, of course, the guns. >that the helicopter has to travel a hundred miles or so before it >From The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Helicopters by Giorgio Apostolo. Comparitive ranges and speeds of the Hughes Model 500D, Bell AH-1J Sea Cobra, Sikorksy UH-60A Black Hawk, Hughes (Now McDD) AH-64A Apache, and the cancelled Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne 500D speed 244km/h(152mph) range 600km(373miles) AH-1J speed 330km/h(205mph) range 550km(342miles) UH-60A speed 360km/h(224mph) range 600km(373miles) AH-64A speed 378km/h(235mph) range 610km(379miles) AH-56 speed 389km/h(242mph) range 1,400km(870miles) The films I've seen of the Cheyenne show it to be one mean mother. But it was way ahead of its time and was considered to mechanicly complicated. Ahead of its time, what can you expect from Lockheed. :-) >reaches the enemy. Then it only gets 8 shots and has to return to >base. Wouldn't it be better to carry 20 or 30 and really have some >fun? Sure, but Hellfires weigh a hell of a lot. More than a TOW. I don't have my reference library here, but it is a very massive missile. Even a Black Hawk with the utility wings can only carry 16, plus a small amount of cargo. It would take a truly massive aircraft to carry 20 or 30 missiles in a ready to fire position. >How do these Hellfires work anyway? Laser homing, the target is illuminated by laser light and the missile homes in on the reflection. >How much do they cost? Sorry, I don't have the figures here, they're at home. P.S. I think our news system is screwed, is this making it beyond WPI? ############################################################################### # "Calling Garland operator 7G," EVE Email megazone@wpi.wpi.edu # # MEGAZONE, aka DAYTONA, aka BRIAN BIKOWICZ Bitnet Use a gateway. Sorry. # ###############################################################################
llee@uunet.UU.NET (Leonard Lee) (11/19/90)
From: rocket!llee@uunet.UU.NET (Leonard Lee) I believe the Hellfire homes in on a laser spot projected by a forward observer or the launching vehicle. By the way, I've seen an AH-64 with 16 Hellfires mounted (no FFAR's or other ordnance except for the cannon). I remember reading somewhere that the weight limit for ordnance depends on the air temperature. -- Leonard T. Lee | All the usual disclaimers apply. Lockheed-Sanders, Nashua, NH 03063 | << Quote of the day deleted >>