PAISLEY%auvm.auvm.edu@VM1.gatech.edu (12/07/90)
From: <PAISLEY%auvm.auvm.edu@VM1.gatech.edu> Since the US Armed Forces do not accept homosexuals into its ranks, claiming to be gay may become a much-used method of avoiding the draft (should it be re-instituted). Does anyone know how the military would screen draftees who claimed to be gay? Surely, there must be some requirement to prove this and a way to prove it, so it won't be used as a way to avoid service. --- L. GORDON PAISLEY, PAISLEY@AUVM.AUVM.EDU THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY WASHINGTON, DC USA
rja@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) (12/09/90)
From: rja@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen)
In article <1990Dec7.011900.1441@cbnews.att.com> PAISLEY%auvm.auvm.edu@VM1.gatech.edu writes:
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+From: <PAISLEY%auvm.auvm.edu@VM1.gatech.edu>
+Since the US Armed Forces do not accept homosexuals into its ranks, claiming
+to be gay may become a much-used method of avoiding the draft (should it
+be re-instituted). Does anyone know how the military would screen draftees
+who claimed to be gay? Surely, there must be some requirement to prove
+this and a way to prove it, so it won't be used as a way to avoid service.
A person I was acquainted with, who was in the Marines in Vietnam, said
some people tried this while he was in boot camp. Reportedly the Drill
Instructors forced the claimees to perform oral sex on them.
Whether this is an urban legend remains to be seen, but, it's not in-
concievable.
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Robert Allen, rja@sun.com DISCLAIMER: I disclaim everything.
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shawhonig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) (12/12/90)
From: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) In article <1990Dec8.222759.28503@cbnews.att.com> rja@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) writes: >From: rja@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) > >In article <1990Dec7.011900.1441@cbnews.att.com> PAISLEY%auvm.auvm.edu@VM1.gatech.edu writes: >+From: <PAISLEY%auvm.auvm.edu@VM1.gatech.edu> >+Since the US Armed Forces do not accept homosexuals into its ranks, claiming >+to be gay may become a much-used method of avoiding the draft (should it >+be re-instituted). Does anyone know how the military would screen draftees >+who claimed to be gay? Surely, there must be some requirement to prove >+this and a way to prove it, so it won't be used as a way to avoid service. > > A person I was acquainted with, who was in the Marines in Vietnam, said > some people tried this while he was in boot camp. Reportedly the Drill > Instructors forced the claimees to perform oral sex on them. If "forced", this would constitute rape. I don't believe the military condones this? The claimees could say that they aren't interested in the Sargeant... [mod.note: Further, it would seem that the sergeant could not possibly take this test far enough to prove or disprove anything, without disqualifying himself from service. 8-) - Bill ] > Whether this is an urban legend remains to be seen, but, it's not in- > concievable. > Robert Allen, rja@sun.com DISCLAIMER: I disclaim everything. Would claiming that one had a substance abuse problem keep one out? Before induction I can imagine it would; afterwards it might lead to various within-service "therapies", but if you persisted, its hard to see how you could be trusted to be reliable. I've read that in the 60's you could smoke a joint at your physical and they'd take you, they were so desparate to throw corpses at Vietnam; given current attitudes this might be seen as a more heinous offense. -- David Honig "The complexity of the brain boggles the mind. Obviously."