[net.auto] Unconventional "suspension?"

an@hou2h.UUCP (A.NGUYEN) (04/27/84)

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Lotus (yay!) has proposed to replace conventional suspensions of
springs and dampers with hydraulic rams powered by engine driven
pumps.  Accelerometers on each corner of the car would sense
oncoming bumps and dips, and the hydraulic system would pull the
affected wheel up or force it down so as to keep a constant pressure
on the tyre contact patch.  Their testing indicates cornering speeds
can go up as much as 10 percent.  Lotus also claims that passengers
in a sport sedan hitting a brick at 100 mph would hardly be aware of
it.  Furthermore all this hydraulic technology is based on highly
developed and proven jet fighter hydraulic control systems.

	Summarized, without permission, from "Chassis and Suspension,
	Part 4," by Kevin cameron.  "Cycle" magazine, May 1984.

wookie@alice.UUCP (Keith Bauer White Tiger Racing) (05/02/84)

this suspension system has already been used with some success
in Formula one race cars. (I'm referring to the active hydraulic
system which anticipates the road ahead).  It sounds like a fascinating
system but I do hate these high tech things that are expensive
to build and maintain.

				Keith Bauer
				White Tiger Racing

seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (D.A. Seifert) (05/03/84)

> this suspension system has already been used with some success
> in Formula one race cars. (I'm referring to the active hydraulic
> system which anticipates the road ahead).  It sounds like a fascinating
> system but I do hate these high tech things that are expensive
> to build and maintain.
> 
> 				Keith Bauer
> 				White Tiger Racing

Rolls Royce uses some sort of active hydraulic system also.
A friend of mine who is a RR mechanic claims they corner very
flat due to this, and that they actually perform quite well.
Of course very very few people drive them fast enough to
discover this!  The ultimate sleeper?

{ Keith, did you get my mail message re: unsprung shocks & springs? }
	
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an@hou2h.UUCP (A.NGUYEN) (05/04/84)

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> That auto-crossing beagle:
> Rolls Royce uses some sort of active hydraulic system also.

Citroen DS19 and DS21's have some kind of hydraulic gizmos, too. 
When I was young (sigh!) I remember being much impressed with the
way a DS would slowly hoist itself up to proper ride height when you
first start it up.  I don't think they anticipate the road tho'.

	Au

gt@hplvla.UUCP (05/10/84)

     There are basically two disadvantages to such an active 
     suspension system.  One is that it will use more engine
     power than a passive system and the other is the added
     complexity.

     The power losses may be significant to a car (some folks 
     (detractors) say as much as 10%) or they may not be.  A
     motorcycle could easily afford to give up the power.
     Either way, a refined system would result in reduced lap
     times on most tracks for most vehicles.

     The added complexity is a fact of life when trading active
     control for passive control.  We can have either aesthetic
     or technical reservations about such a tradeoff.  The bottom
     line will be how the cost, performance, and reliability
     factors all stack up in a refined system.

                George Tatge
		HP Loveland Instrument Div.
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