[sci.military] dutch patriots transported by the soviet union

A6014LHG%HASARA11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Leo Geesink) (01/18/91)

From: Leo Geesink <A6014LHG%HASARA11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Yesterday, the two Dutch patriot squadrons left for Turkey. Due to the fact
that the US didn't have the transport capacity and the Royal Netherlands
Army doesn't have planes like the galaxy, the only way to get the missiles
in turkey was by means of a soviet 'commercial' transport company.

So, accompanied by Dutch military personnel, the missiles went on their way
in an Antonov 224 Condor. The patriots are expected to become operational
tomorrow.

Leo Geesink                   |  bitnet  : A6014LHG@HASARA11
University of Amsterdam       |  internet: GEESINK@SARA.NL
Dept. of Information Systems

sysmgr@KING.ENG.UMD.EDU (Doug Mohney) (01/19/91)

From: sysmgr@KING.ENG.UMD.EDU (Doug Mohney)
In article <1991Jan18.003442.8516@cbnews.att.com>, A6014LHG%HASARA11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Leo Geesink) writes:

>Yesterday, the two Dutch patriot squadrons left for Turkey. Due to the fact
>that the US didn't have the transport capacity and the Royal Netherlands
>Army doesn't have planes like the galaxy, the only way to get the missiles
>in turkey was by means of a soviet 'commercial' transport company.

>So, accompanied by Dutch military personnel, the missiles went on their way
>in an Antonov 224 Condor. The patriots are expected to become operational
>tomorrow.

Eeek! Are you serious? Hope they don't make an extended stop in, euh...
Moscow for, uh, yah, refuelling. 

 Doug Mohney, Operations Manager, CAD Lab/ME, Univ. of Maryland College Park
			*  Ray Kaplan was right * 

psyc0147@waikato.ac.nz (John W. Fowlie) (01/22/91)

From: psyc0147@waikato.ac.nz (John W. Fowlie)
In article <1991Jan19.041620.5149@cbnews.att.com>, sysmgr@KING.ENG.UMD.EDU (Doug Mohney) writes:
> 
> 
> From: sysmgr@KING.ENG.UMD.EDU (Doug Mohney)
> In article <1991Jan18.003442.8516@cbnews.att.com>, A6014LHG%HASARA11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Leo Geesink) writes:
> 
>>Yesterday, the two Dutch patriot squadrons left for Turkey. Due to the fact
>>that the US didn't have the transport capacity and the Royal Netherlands
>>Army doesn't have planes like the galaxy, the only way to get the missiles
>>in turkey was by means of a soviet 'commercial' transport company.
> 
>>So, accompanied by Dutch military personnel, the missiles went on their way
>>in an Antonov 224 Condor. The patriots are expected to become operational
>>tomorrow.
> 
> Eeek! Are you serious? Hope they don't make an extended stop in, euh...
> Moscow for, uh, yah, refuelling. 
> 
>  Doug Mohney, Operations Manager, CAD Lab/ME, Univ. of Maryland College Park
> 			*  Ray Kaplan was right * 

It has happened before.
Three months ago the NZ meat board had a rush delivery of frozen beef and lamb
to the middle east; so they hired a Condor while flying over Afganistan they
were shot at by Stinger missles from the Mujahadeen, so they had to increase
their altitude and change course.  They had an unshedueled stop in one of the
Asian Soviet Republics were $NZ50 000 worth of meat was 'appropriated' 
by soviet military in exchange for fuel.  This was witnessed by the NZ Meat
board "government" representative who accompanied the meat. 
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bxr307@csc.anu.edu.au (01/23/91)

From: bxr307@csc.anu.edu.au
In article <1991Jan18.003442.8516@cbnews.att.com>, A6014LHG%HASARA11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Leo Geesink) writes:
> 
> Yesterday, the two Dutch patriot squadrons left for Turkey. Due to the fact
> that the US didn't have the transport capacity and the Royal Netherlands
> Army doesn't have planes like the galaxy, the only way to get the missiles
> in turkey was by means of a soviet 'commercial' transport company.

	This is not that unusual.  During the early 1980's when the large F16
NATO building program was underway in Europe components for the aircraft were
transported by ship to Europe.  The US merchant service was unable apparently
to supply enough ships due to committments elsewhere so the job went out to
tender.  Guess who has the larges merchant marine in the world and won the job?
You guessed right, the Soviet Union!  ;-)


Brian Ross