[sci.military] Topgun vs Red Flag

elp@sauron.Columbia.NCR.COM (Ed Peebles) (02/09/91)

From: elp@sauron.Columbia.NCR.COM (Ed Peebles)
In article <1991Feb4.063247.20112@cbnews.att.com> portal!cup.portal.com!ROCKY@uunet.UU.NET writes:
>
>I just spent a day out at Nellis at the invitation of the Air Force, where
>they are now running ~Desert Flag.~  We (news media) were told that Red Flag 
>was much more advanced than Top Gun, a doctoral degree if you will...

I would like to offer some observations on Topgun vs Red Flag from personal 
experience (1500 hours in the F-14). This is the way it was in the good 
old days....

I've been to Topgun ('82) and Red Flag ('87) and the objectives of each are
totally different. The Navy's objective with Topgun is to concentrate solely
on FIGHTER tactics and weapons employment. The objective of Red Flag is a 
total package (fighter and attack) training environment. At least 90%(+-) of 
my Topgun syllabus concentrated on Air Combat Maneuvering (ACM), advanced 
weapons system employment and threat assessment. The other 10% was strike 
package defense, etc. from the fighter escort position. That's not to say that
there wasn't some good ACM at 'Flag.

The Air Force has their own version of Topgun that I believe is named 
Fighter Weapons School. The Navy also has an advanced training course 
for attack crews that I believe is named Strike Warfare School (Mudgun?). 

For what it's worth.

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