[sci.military] Pentagon budget: sexy vs. boring

cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) (03/06/91)

From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)


While the recent conflict demonstrated the effectiveness of several of
the weapons in the US arsenal, it also demonstrated some real
weaknesses in our military.  In particular, our lack of fast sea lift
capability could have proven disastrous, and our mine sweeping
capability was inadequate.  Sexy, sleek weapons have their place, but
so do the more "boring" pieces of equipment.

Does anyone know whether the Pentagon is adjusting its budget to fill
in some of the gaps in the less exciting parts of its arsenal?

--Scott Cromar
cromar@math.rutgers.edu

em31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Andrew Morgan) (03/13/91)

From: Eric Andrew Morgan <em31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
I know for a fact that the Defense Department in it's budget request to
Congress asked for much more funding for the C-17 Transport Plane. 
Congress is inclined to give it to them.  Also, Congress supposedly
intends to force more Fast Sealift Vessels on the Navy, just like they
did last time.


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Eric Andrew Morgan
Carnegie Mellon University

carlson@haven.mitre.org (Bruce Carlson) (03/13/91)

From: carlson@haven.mitre.org (Bruce Carlson)
In article <1991Mar6.035953.22789@cbnews.att.com> cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:
>
>From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
>While the recent conflict demonstrated the effectiveness of several of
>the weapons in the US arsenal, it also demonstrated some real
>weaknesses in our military.  In particular, our lack of fast sea lift
>capability could have proven disastrous, and our mine sweeping
>capability was inadequate.  Sexy, sleek weapons have their place, but
>so do the more "boring" pieces of equipment.
>Does anyone know whether the Pentagon is adjusting its budget to fill
>in some of the gaps in the less exciting parts of its arsenal?
>--Scott Cromar
>cromar@math.rutgers.edu

(the info on SINCGARS was from an article in a commercial magazine;
Defense Electronics, if I remember correctly)

I think another significant "missing link" in our tactical
capabilities is the sad condition of most of the Army's
tactical communications equipment.  Nearly all Army units in the
gulf are still using the VRC-12 family of VHF radios, which is
a mid 60's design.   The SINCGARS radios (that replace the VRC-12
series) have been issued only to a few units, primarily the 82d Airborne
and other high priority units.   SINCGARS is now at full production
but there wasn't enough time to produce the radios and train the
thousands of personnel that have to operate them.

If we had to operate for an extended period of time, especially in
hot weather, I think there could have been significant commo
problems within the Division and Corps units.  The VRC-12 radios
work, but they have a very low MTBF compared to newer radios and
they don't tolerate heat very well.  It seems ironic that we can
spend money on weapons systems that may have a multi-million dollar
cost per unit, but can't afford to buy the equipment that allows
the commander to control his tactical troops.  

If you look at HF radio equipment the situation is even worse.  There are 
so many things that can break or malfunction in the HF radio-teletype
rigs that most units feel they are doing pretty well if they
can keep about 50% of them operational and on the air.  The newest piece
of equipment in the RATT rigs is the teletype, which can transmit
at up to 1200 baud.  However, since all the other equipment (modem,
etc.) is so old the rigs still operate at 75 baud.  The archival
storage capability is punched paper tape that uses 5-level baudot
code.

Bruce Carlson
carlson@gateway.mitre.org

Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of my employer or the US Government.

henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (03/14/91)

From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
>From: Eric Andrew Morgan <em31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
>I know for a fact that the Defense Department in it's budget request to
>Congress asked for much more funding for the C-17 Transport Plane. 
>Congress is inclined to give it to them...

Congress is, however, starting to ask what the C-17 can do that more
C-5s couldn't do sooner and cheaper.  Lockheed is offering to restart
production of the C-5 for much less than what McDD wants/needs to
build C-17s.

The orthodox excuse is that the C-5 is incapable of flying heavy loads
direct to the front lines, while the C-17 can do this.  Surprise surprise,
if you look at the original C-5 specs, it was supposed to be able to fly
heavy loads to the front lines!  There were problems with debris damaging
engines when operating on soft surfaces, and the USAF was reluctant to
clear the C-5 for such operations in the end; nothing has been said about
why the C-17 won't have the same problems.  The clincher is that like the
C-5, the C-17 will be bought in sufficiently small numbers that the USAF
almost certainly would never authorize risking them in front-line flights.
As shown by both recent and earlier experiences, heavy airlifters are very
valuable.  If there aren't many of them, they will be kept well back from
the combat zone and front-line capability will be irrelevant.
-- 
"But this *is* the simplified version   | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
for the general public."     -S. Harris |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry