[sci.military] Patriots in Israel

rharel@fab8.intel.com (RICHARD HAREL) (03/15/91)

From: rharel@fab8.intel.com (RICHARD HAREL)

>>From: maarrrk@gauss.ucsb.edu (Mark Erickson)

>>	Equipment is only as good as the people who use it, and the
>>	Iraqis did not appear to have their act together at all.
>>	
>>	I don't think that they could have maintained and used
>>>>>>>>our equipment.  The Israelis had Patriot missiles, but <<<<<<<<<<<<
>>	did not have the training necessary to defend their country
>>	without U.S. crews.
>>
>>	--maarrrk

The first Patriot missiles were flown into Israel January 19th 1991 by the
SAC from Germany - along with the crews to man them - one day after 7 scud 
missiles hit Israeli territory. 
They were manned by American soldiers because the Israelis
were still undergoing training in Texas when the war broke out. So 
when you say "the Israelis had Patriot missiles" - yes they did - AFTER the 
above mentioned date. 
Another point to be mentioned is that the Patriot was never originally designed 
to defend the skies against ballistic missiles. 
Even the later models which were designated as "anti-missile-missiles" failed 
to give complete protection to the Israelis, Saudis and the unfortunate
reservists. SCUDS were without a doubt, Saddam's most effective/successful 
weapon of the war - especially since no one was 100 percent sure that chemical
and biological warheads wouldn't be used. A single SCUD missile was able to 
kill more than 20 percent of the allied troops lost in combat.
As far as I know, there is NO effective ground to air defense system 
available (and in service) that can protect a country from a full scale 
ballistic missile attack.