[sci.military] Stealth boats & Subs

UPEMB%SEGUC11@gd3090.gd.chalmers.se (Mikael Borgman) (03/28/91)

From: Mikael Borgman <UPEMB%SEGUC11@gd3090.gd.chalmers.se>

Charles Bergman writes:
>Why waste your time with surface boats?

Subs have been around for some 80 years now, and navys are
continuing to use surface ships, there must be a reason. The Swedish
navy operates oxygen independent conventional subs made by
Kockums (they are by the way exported to Australia, chosen in
competition with the german ones, feel free to order a few), but they
cannot be everywhere. Subs are very effective, but not as "stealthy" as
you would like. There are ways, as we all know, to locate and destroy
subs before they can reach a vital target. Subs are also quite slow.

Take sweden as an example. If we for the sake of this discussion
assume that the threat comes from the east. A quick look at the map
shows that it is a 12 hour trip by boat from coast to coast in the baltic
sea (for troop carriers and other big ships, faster vessels could make it
in half that time). Also, sweden has a very long coastline, almost all of
it suitable for landing. In such a situation it is vital to be able to gather
force very quickly to get to the attackers ships in time. Subs would be
to slow, and even if they are there the attacker is well prepared for
countering sub attacks. Fast surface vessels invisible to radar is an
exellent solution to the problem. They would be cheap enough to be
deployed in some number too.

The Libyan fast attack surface missile boats were quite unstealhty, and
unsupported.

Swedish stealth boats would operate in cooperation with subs, attack
aircraft and a very capable long range, land based coastal defence.

So the stealth boat concept has its advantages as has subs, and carriers
for that sake. However, taking a carrier group into the Baltic Sea would
be a bad idea even without any stealth boats around.

Mikael Borgman
upemb%seguc11 at gd3090.gd.chalmers.se