[sci.military] More B1 fun

t-scotta@uunet.uu.net (06/08/91)

From: microsoft!t-scotta@uunet.uu.net


Steve Williams commented in his article,

"I don't think that the B-1 has a poor history of reliability.  It 
is an unusual plane, pushed to the maximum limit of performance.  
One example  is the unusual design of its fuel tanks which has to 
be incorporated into its swing wing design.  Its leaking fuel problem 
is nothing unusual."

Have I missed something or do all swing wing aircraft leak fuel.
I don't think that the F-14 or the Tornado, to other swing wing
aircraft leak fuel to any noticeable extent.  True, these planes
are fighters(well ok interceptors), and are lots smaller so there
is less stress at the wing/fusalage(sp) joints.  But the basic
design(swing wing) is the same.

Another aircraft that is well know for leaking fuel is the SR-71.
However, this was designed in on purpose because of the extreme
temps. in which it operates.  On the SR-71 at speed, the metal heats 
up, expands, and seals the tanks.  I don't believe the B-1B can fly 
fast enough to generate the required heat for that to happen.
Also, the fuel involved is an important factor.  The SR-71 fuel
is rather special. It is my understanding that even a lit match
dropped in, say a pool of SR-71 fuel(JP-7??), will NOT cause
the fuel to burn.  So lots of SR-71 fuel on the ground is not
problem, as opposed to lots of standard jet fuel on the ground, 
which is much easier to light, and is an easy way to loose a 
good ground crew. :)

I think that the B-1B has some signifigant problems that really 
need to be sorted out.  If the AirForce is forced to ground
all of it's B-1Bs then there is something really wrong with
the plane and in my opinion should be fixed.  Once these problems
are corrected, the B-1B will be able to prove itself as a good
airplane.

Scott Avery
No Flames intended or implied
My opinions are all my own.

yarvin-norman@CS.YALE.EDU (Norman Yarvin) (06/11/91)

From: yarvin-norman@CS.YALE.EDU (Norman Yarvin)


microsoft!t-scotta@uunet.uu.net writes:
>>  Its leaking fuel problem is nothing unusual.
>
>Have I missed something or do all swing wing aircraft leak fuel.

As I understand it, fuel leak problems are common during development of
aircraft largely because of the use of fuel tanks integral to the wing.
This means that the same surface serves as a wing, which means it is
stressed by airflow and bends to take up the stress, and as a fuel tank, for
which it must be hermetically sealed.  I presume swing wings exacerbate this
problem because the pattern of stress changes as the wing moves.

Jet aircraft generally carry monstrous amounts of fuel; their wings are
practically huge fuel tanks.  Leaking fuel is unacceptable in an
operational aircraft, but as a development problem it is not an indication
of the designers' incompetence.

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Norman Yarvin
yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu