neff@sierra.Stanford.EDU (Randall B. Neff) (07/19/89)
Actually, the current implementation plan of issuing IEEE standards in machine readable form could be considered, in one sense, as an admission of failure (or just lack of success) of the IEEE standards group. Consider the implementation, on the most popular (read widely available) ``computer'': The IBM pc (or clone) architecture: not an IEEE standard MS DOS: not an IEEE standard CGA, EGA, VGA: not an IEEE standard HyperTRANS: not an IEEE standard (Proprietary!) An alternative question might be: why aren't IEEE standards more popular? Randall Neff neff@anna.stanford.edu
hughes@ns.network.com (Jim Hughes x1676) (07/19/89)
Is there anyone from IEEE listening, or are we all just flaming in the wind? jim hughes@network.com
mujica@ra.cs.ucla.edu (S. Mujica) (07/20/89)
on 19 Jul 89 14:09:52 GMT, hughes@ns.network.com (Jim Hughes x1676) said: > Path: ucla-cs!rutgers!uwvax!umn-d-ub!nic.MR.NET!ns!hughes > References: <218@sierra.stanford.edu> > Sender: hughes@ns.network.com (Jim Hughes x1676) > Lines: 5 > Is there anyone from IEEE listening, or are we all just flaming in the > wind? > jim > hughes@network.com Does IEEE have an e-mail address? In any case it is interesting to see the reaction to the Institue's annoouncement. What about polling what would be the preferred hypertext form for this kind of publication? We could send the results to IEEE officials in case they are not reading this. Sergio Mujica mujica@cs.ucla.edu Computer Science Department, UCLA
fwb@demon.siemens.com (Frederic W. Brehm) (07/20/89)
In article <1494@ns.network.com> hughes@ns.UUCP (Jim Hughes x1676) writes: >Is there anyone from IEEE listening, or are we all just flaming in the >wind? I just handed a paper copy of the entire discussion to Ken Anderson (the president of the IEEE computer society). He said that he will forward it to the right people. The Message-ID's of articles I have collected are attached to the end of this note. If I have missed any, please send them to Ken at kra@demon.siemens.com or ...!princeton!siemens!demon!kra Please don't fill his mailbox with flames (they belong here :-) or other comments (which also belong here). He's a pretty busy guy and will ignore junk mail. The Message-ID: <8014@hoptoad.uucp> <1278@intercon.UUCP> <214@sierra.stanford.edu> <MUJICA.89Jul17153700@ra.cs.ucla.edu> <IYkngdS00Ukm81NV1X@andrew.cmu.edu> <1491@ns.network.com> <218@sierra.stanford.edu> <10766@brunix.UUCP> <33285@apple.Apple.COM> <1494@ns.network.com> <472@arc.UUCP> <MUJICA.89Jul19104303@ra.cs.ucla.edu> Fred -- Frederic W. Brehm Siemens Corporate Research Princeton, NJ fwb@demon.siemens.com -or- princeton!siemens!demon!fwb
lumsdon@tofacsa.arpa (Lumsdon) (07/21/89)
How about EtherNet, RS232C, RS422, RS423 ? CSMA CD, CSMA CA ? IEEE 488? IEEE floating point numbers? Nubus? VMEbus? Aren't some of these IEEE standards? lumsdon%dtoa1.navy.mil@dtrc.arpa
camp@m2.csc.ti.com (Clyde Camp) (07/22/89)
In article <596@dtix.ARPA> lumsdon@tofacsa.UUCP (Esther Lumsdon - Code: 1411) writes: >How about EtherNet, RS232C, RS422, RS423 ? CSMA CD, CSMA CA ? >IEEE 488? IEEE floating point numbers? > >Nubus? VMEbus? >Aren't some of these IEEE standards? > >lumsdon%dtoa1.navy.mil@dtrc.arpa The local area network standards are IEEE 802.x sponsored by the Computer Society's Technical Committee on Computer Communications and all fall under the 44 or so 802.x committees (Chair - Maris Graube.) RSS232C, RSS422, RSS423 are EIA standards. NuBus (IEEE 1196), VME (IEEE 1014), Multibus-I/II (IEEE 796/1296), Futurebus (IEEE 896), Floating Point (IEEE 754), S100 Bus (IEEE 696), STD Bus (IEEE 961) and others are IEEE standards sponsored by the Computer Society's Microprocessor Standards Subcommittee (which I chair.) IEEE 488 is sponsored by the IEEE Instrument and Measurement Society. BTW - I inadverdantly (R)eplied to someone instead of (F)orwarding with the names and addresses of who in the IEEE to contact about this as well as some other info. I would appreciate whoever it was forwarding it back to the net since I have lost the text and would rather not regenerate it. Thanks in advance. Clyde