theo@cs.fau.edu (Theo Heavey) (12/15/90)
Does anyone out there know how to join the IEEE Computer Society WITHOUT joining IEEE? I am a computer science major and after reading the last 6 months of the Spectrum (in those *)(^&^%^%$^% plastic bags!) have found it totally lacking for my area. Thanks in advance! Theodora Heavey Florida Atlantic University Boca Raton, FL theo@cs.fau.edu p.s. if it makes anyone feel better -- Comm of the ACM comes in those non-biodegradable bags too. Maybe they should switch to bio-degradable and make everyone happy.
farkas@eecg.toronto.edu (Keith I. Farkas) (12/16/90)
In article <7Hg8T4w163w@cs.fau.edu> theo@cs.fau.edu (Theo Heavey) writes: > >p.s. if it makes anyone feel better -- Comm of the ACM comes in those >non-biodegradable bags too. Maybe they should switch to bio-degradable >and make everyone happy. FYI, there is no such thing as bio-degradable plastic. Plastic marketed as being bio-degradable merely breaks down into much smaller pieces of plastic. The only part of the plastic sheet which is bio-degradable is the substance which holds these smaller pieces of plastic together. Plastic itself never bio-degrades and thus will be with us forever. I'm sure one of the reasons SPECTRUM comes in a plastic bag is so that IEEE can mail both SPECTRUM and the Institute at the same time. Why don't they combine the two publications into one? In fact, personally, I find the Institute (printer on newsprint) far more interesting. -keith
boykin@encore.com (Joseph Boykin) (12/18/90)
In article <7Hg8T4w163w@cs.fau.edu>, theo@cs.fau.edu (Theo Heavey) writes: |> |> Does anyone out there know how to join the IEEE Computer Society |> WITHOUT joining IEEE? I am a computer science major and after reading |> the last 6 months of the Spectrum (in those *)(^&^%^%$^% plastic bags!) |> have found it totally lacking for my area. You may join the Computer Society by becoming an IEEE member, then adding the Computer Society for an additional $22/year. That is apparently what you've already done. The other possibility is to join the Computer Society as an affiliate member of the IEEE. The cost of this is the $22/year which goes to the Computer Society, and 1/2 of the standard IEEE membership fee. This year, that combined number will be $54. Note that the affiliate membership makes you a full member, not a student member. By IEEE Bylaws, there is no way to join only the Computer Society (or any other IEEE society) as an affiliate without being an IEEE student member. ---- Joseph Boykin Manager, Mach OS Development Encore Computer Corp Treasurer, IEEE Computer Society Internet: boykin@encore.com Phone: 508-460-0500 x2720
johnb@srchtec.UUCP (John Baldwin) (12/18/90)
In article <13565@encore.Encore.COM> boykin@encore.com writes: >Note that the affiliate membership makes you a full member, not a student >member. By IEEE Bylaws, there is no way to join only the Computer Society >(or any other IEEE society) as an affiliate without being an IEEE student >member. Hunnh? Could you expound upon that? Normally, I'm not "reading impaired," but this sounds like a contradiction to me. Is an Affiliate member of the IEEE-CS considered a student member of IEEE, or a full member? What about voting members of the ACM who were asked to join IEEE-CS? [Yes, I know they're entirely separate organizations, with reciprocal agreements for reduction of dues.] -- John Baldwin | srchtec!johnb@gatech.edu | johnb%srchtec.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu
boykin@encore.com (Joseph Boykin) (12/21/90)
In article <388@srchtec.UUCP>, johnb@srchtec.UUCP (John Baldwin) writes: |> In article <13565@encore.Encore.COM> boykin@encore.com writes: |> |> >Note that the affiliate membership makes you a full member, not a student |> >member. By IEEE Bylaws, there is no way to join only the Computer Society |> >(or any other IEEE society) as an affiliate without being an IEEE student |> >member. |> |> Hunnh? |> |> Could you expound upon that? Normally, I'm not "reading impaired," but |> this sounds like a contradiction to me. Is an Affiliate member of the |> IEEE-CS considered a student member of IEEE, or a full member? Sorry about that. Let me try again. If you want to join as a student member, and hence receive the student rate and the IEEE student publication (I forget the name), the only way to do so is join the IEEE and add the Computer Society. If you do not want to join as a student (or cannot), you may *either* join the IEEE and add the Computer Society, or join only the Computer Society as an Affiliate member. Is this any clearer? |> What about voting members of the ACM who were asked to join IEEE-CS? I'm not sure exactly what you mean. ACM members must join both the IEEE and the Computer Society to receive the $5 discount. You do not receive the discount if you join the Computer Society as an Affiliate member. ---- Joseph Boykin Manager, Mach OS Development Encore Computer Corp Treasurer, IEEE Computer Society Internet: boykin@encore.com Phone: 508-460-0500 x2720
johnb@srchtec.UUCP (John Baldwin) (12/21/90)
In article <13612@encore.Encore.COM> boykin@encore.com writes: > [explanation deleted] > >Is this any clearer? Yes, thanks. Now I understand. >|> What about voting members of the ACM who were asked to join IEEE-CS? > >I'm not sure exactly what you mean. ACM members must join both the >IEEE and the Computer Society to receive the $5 discount. You do not >receive the discount if you join the Computer Society as an Affiliate member. Are you referring to a discount offered by the IEEE? My ACM dues bill comes with a note saying that since I'm an IEEE-CS member (Affiliate), I'm entitled to the $5 ACM discount. -- John Baldwin | srchtec!johnb@gatech.edu | johnb%srchtec.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu
slamont@network.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) (12/22/90)
In article <388@srchtec.UUCP> johnb@srchtec.UUCP (John Baldwin) writes: > ... Is an Affiliate member of the >IEEE-CS considered a student member of IEEE, or a full member? > >What about voting members of the ACM who were asked to join IEEE-CS? I'm a member of ACM and a Society Affiliate member of IEEE Computer Society. I'm not a student member of either organization. I am allowed to vote on IEEE CS matters, so I guess that makes me as full a member of IEEE CS as I need to be. spl (the p stands for pleased that I don't receive Spectrum, though...) -- Steve Lamont, SciViGuy -- 1882p@cc.nps.navy.mil -- a guest on network.ucsd.edu NPS Confuser Center / Code 51 / Naval Postgraduate School / Monterey, CA 93943 What is truth and what is fable, where is Ruth and where is Mabel? - Director/producer John Amiel, heard on NPR