ben@contact.uucp (Ben Eng) (12/18/90)
It's funny how Spectrum and Potentials always seem to arrive in the mailbox nicely giftwrapped, while Computer magazine always arrives unprotected. My issues of Computer end up completely mangled. It's really too bad, because it's one of those magazines that is worth keeping forever. I wish they would deliver Computer in some sort of protective wrapping! Ben -- Ben Eng | ben@contact.uucp (416)-431-3333 150 Beverley St. Apt #1L | Bix: jetpen Toronto, Ontario M5T 1Y6 | UofT Engineering Science: engb@ecf.toronto.edu _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_| Home: (416)-979-7885, (416)-979-8761
mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles P. Mok) (12/22/90)
In article <1990Dec18.023921.2097@contact.uucp>, ben@contact.uucp (Ben Eng) writes... > >It's funny how Spectrum and Potentials always seem to arrive in the >mailbox nicely giftwrapped, while Computer magazine always arrives >unprotected. My issues of Computer end up completely mangled. It's >really too bad, because it's one of those magazines that is worth >keeping forever. > >I wish they would deliver Computer in some sort of protective >wrapping! Only if it is recycled paper envelope or things like that. I am tired of seeing unnecessary plastic bags for "protection" of the magazine. I am not an environmentalist by all means, but I see waste when I see it. Do you want protection for a magazine or for the planet? This is the kind of choices we have to make. Charles >Ben >-- >Ben Eng | ben@contact.uucp (416)-431-3333 >150 Beverley St. Apt #1L | Bix: jetpen >Toronto, Ontario M5T 1Y6 | UofT Engineering Science: engb@ecf.toronto.edu >_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_| Home: (416)-979-7885, (416)-979-8761 --- Charles Mok/Digital Equipment Corporation INTERNET: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com UUCP: ....!decwrl!fortsc.dec.enet.com!mok ---
fertig-scott@cs.yale.edu (Scott Fertig) (12/22/90)
In article <1990Dec21.191405.2446@pa.dec.com> mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles P. Mok) writes: > >In article <1990Dec18.023921.2097@contact.uucp>, ben@contact.uucp (Ben Eng) writes... >> >>It's funny how Spectrum and Potentials always seem to arrive in the >>mailbox nicely giftwrapped, while Computer magazine always arrives >>unprotected. My issues of Computer end up completely mangled. It's >>really too bad, because it's one of those magazines that is worth >>keeping forever. >> >>I wish they would deliver Computer in some sort of protective >>wrapping! > >Only if it is recycled paper envelope or things like that. I am tired >of seeing unnecessary plastic bags for "protection" of the magazine. >I am not an environmentalist by all means, but I see waste when I see >it. Do you want protection for a magazine or for the planet? This is >the kind of choices we have to make. I agree with the recently expressed sentiment that this packaging discussion has continued for a tiresome period of time. But I also agree that the whole issue is very important. So I'm posting only to clear up a common misunderstanding about packaging options: that there is nothing but non-recyclable plastic or paper to choose from. There is a middle ground between those who want their magazines to arrive undamaged and those who want them to be packaged in a less environmentally damaging manner. Plant fiber cellulose is an ecological alternative to plastic. While sturdier than paper, cellulose is truly biodegradable and, like paper, made from a renewable resource. There is at least one stationery company, Earth Care Paper Inc., that packages its recycled-paper products using cellulose. It is true that energy is consumed to make this form of cellulose, although I believe that the material for its production is excess pulp left from the manufacture of other products (meaning that currently no additional trees are cut down). I suppose there is a good argument that most magazines do not need additional packaging to travel through the US mail undamaged most of the time. But clearly there are times a sturdy package is called for and publishers should be made aware of plant-fiber cellulose as an option. Please no flames about advertising on the net: I have no connection with Earth Care Inc. other than as a customer. -- #ARPA: Fertig-Scott@cs.yale.edu #UUCP: {decvax,linus,seismo}!yale!Fertig-Scott