heneghan@ihuxa.UUCP (Joe Heneghan) (06/27/84)
2 SUGGESTIONS TO INCREASE THE SPEED LIMIT 1. Organize a nationwide lobby: a.) We can arrive at a foundation of reasons to justify an increase in the speed limit. b.) People could write editorials to the media. c.) Enact a write-in campaign to legislators 2. Have a "speed in" at some future date for an hour at 65 mph. This way no one has to blow off their vacation or whatever. Of course conditions would have to be safe. from the keyboard of Joe Heneghan " I'm not a speed demon, but I beleive in freedom whenever possible ! "
mzal@pegasus.UUCP (Mike Zaleski) (06/27/84)
[Excerpts from Joe Heneghan]: 1. Organize a nationwide lobby: This is exactly the kind of thing I was (sort of) encouraging in my 55 MPH message. a.) We can arrive at a foundation of reasons to justify an increase in the speed limit. As I have already said, the only foundations of reasons I see are in our desires to enjoy driving fast and get places more quickly. b.) People could write editorials to the media. I suppose we could do this, but I believe more people would be swayed by emotional, slickly designed advertisements along the lines I suggested in my previous message on this subject. Such a campaign could be coordinated by the "motorists lobby" as described above. c.) Enact a write-in campaign to legislators I have written to every appropriate legislator. The answers ranged from "no answer" to disagreement with me. 2. Have a "speed in" at some future date for an hour at 65 mph. This way no one has to blow off their vacation or whatever. Of course conditions would have to be safe. I believe this would not work for two reasons: 1. The authorities would simply ticket as many people as they could, those few would suffer, and no incentive would be given for the authorities to do anything. 2. It would be precieved as as evidence of the reckless nature of the people behind the movement - i.e. encouraging violation of the law. You would be compated to murders, rapists, and other forms of low life. Again, the idea behind my "Too Slow, Why Go?" campaign and driving boycott is that there will be definite economic loss. People will sit up and take notice of that. Several years ago, CBS ran a TV program called "The Guns of Autumn" - an anti-hunting program. The NRA threatened to call for a boycott of any corporation which advertised during that program. The result? Every advertiser withdrew their support and the program was run with public service advertisements only. Now you may not like the NRA or agree with any of their goals, but you must admit that their method was both effective in altering the behavior of businesses and it was legal. It is my belief that if a significant number of people agreed not to drive anywhere on one weekend and various businesses saw significant losses, they would force some sort of action. And, even if this method fails completely, it does not preclude trying other techniques. How might we organize such a motorist's lobby? One suggestion I have is to write to the various car magazines and encourage their editors to band together on this issue. Any such organization would need to reach a large number of driving enthusiasts. -- Mike^Z Zaleski@Rutgers allegra!pegasus!mzal
khw@druky.UUCP (WilliamsonKH) (06/28/84)
Concerning changing the 55 mph law. I have the following proposal which I believe could be a successful compromise between those who wish to raise the speed limit unconditionally, and those who wish to keep it the same. First, the current situation: Federal law requires states to set a maximum 55 mph speed limit or lose federal funding for highways. Since the feds pay 90% of new interstate construction costs, and more than half of all remaining construction costs (excluding maintenance), this has been effective club in forcing the states to pass and keep a local 55 mph limit. And since it is not strictly a national 55 law, it bypasses states rights concerns. The law was passed at the time of the 1970's energy crisis, with the goal of saving energy. Since then arguments about keeping it also have cited safety as a factor, since accidents at 55 are much more survivable than at higher speeds. I submit that energy savings is a legitimate national concern, appropriate for action by Congress, but that setting a speed limit for safety reasons should be a local concern, appropriate not for a national law, but left up to the discretion of the states. Now for the proposal. I believe that Congress should pass a law giving the states the power to set the speed limit to whatever they want on qualifying highways. Legalistic language would define what a qualifying highway is, but basically the concept is one of a rural highway which isn't in a corridor which gets a very large quantity of traffic. I believe that if everybody in Montana, say, drove 70 for a year, that the extra gas wasted would be less than what is used (not necessarily wasted) in a large city, say New York, in a day. In other words, it is a drop in the bucket. Now the 55 limit is a heavy burden in Montana, as in most rural areas, and especially the West, since the distances one has to travel to get between places is large. It is not uncommon for distances between places to be 500 miles. It is not nearly as heavy a burden where to get to the next place, you have to go less than about 100 miles, and this is where most traffic in this country is. To use a concrete example. I would not support raising the speed limit on the New York to Philadelphia corridor, because there is a lot of traffic on this, and the distance is not large enough to be a heavy burden for those travelling on it. So that is my proposal. It doesn't solve the entire problem, and will make some people unhappy. But it does lift the 55 mph burden from the places where it lays heaviest. Note that the states are free to leave the speed limit right where it is, if they desire, for safety reasons or whatever. If you think this is a good idea, why not send it on to your friends and representatives in Congress? Karl Williamson ATT ISL Denver ..druky!khw 303-538-4583
ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (07/03/84)
Marylanders will remember that the speed limits went up to 50 MPH. They had just been lowered to 50 by the Governor to conserve fuel when the nationwide 55 law went into effect. In addition, the survivability may be part of the safety increase but I would expect the real benefit of slowing down would be a decrease in the number of accidents. -ron
jrt@hou5g.UUCP (07/13/84)
Sorry ron, The biggest effect of lowering the speed limit to 55 was NOT decreasining the number of accidents. Since the laws were enacted, there was a small decrease in the number of fatalities per mile driven (people argue about why). There was also a marked INCREASE in the number of ACCIDENTS. This was caused by crowding on the highways, longer trips (a six hour trip became an eight hour trip), and BOREDOM (at the reduced speeds, you have a tendancy to drift and watch the scenery, rather than concentrating on driving). (** FRODO **) alias hou5g!jrt P.S. There were even areas in California, and other congested areas where the number of fatalities even ROSE after the lower speed limits were enforced(That confused the h**l out of "EXPERTS").