[net.auto] Handling controversy

richa@tekred.UUCP (Rich Amber ) (07/04/84)

pecial tires that allow a really
brave individual (on a skidpad) to corner at 0.86g. Great!
BFD!!!

Someone here recently said the 84 Vette was $25K. Forget that.
Those Vettes aren't readily available, so the dealer gets at
least $28K. Now the 85 Vette is gonna run you over $30K. And
what do you get? A rocketship that will waste almost anything
on the highway, including your wallet. It will pass everything
except a gas station. 

I won't tell anyone to buy a Jap car or even a European car.
What does that leave you? You want excitement, but you want to
be patriotic and buy American and the only American sports car
is the Corvette (in spite of the fact that Mr. Ferrari himself
says the only true American sports car is a Jeep).

Why has no one in the last thousand articles here said anything
about this cute little Fiero thing that Pontiac makes? Don't
write that sucker off. It corners at 0.84g and the only American
car that can do it faster is the new Vette, but at twice the
price and half the fuel economy. And it IS a true sports car.
It makes no objection at CRUISING above and beyond the speed
limit all day long (at over 30mpg) and corners like a bat out
of hell. BUT, even a Volkswagen bug will pass you if you are
only going 55mph (no one drives 55, even on roads that NEVER
had a higher speed limit).

Be honest with yourself just once. Come on, it won't hurt you.
We all have our favorites, but tone down your glands and admit
that there is no where in this country where you can legally
take a "street legal" car to the limit. Is all your excitement
in the STATS written in R&T or C&D? Are you REALLY willing to
pay more than $30,000 to get something that you can't use?
You like to blow your money that much?  Why not start a lobby
and get the damn laws changed instead?  

seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (D.A. Seifert) (07/04/84)

> We all have our favorites, but tone down your glands and admit
> that there is no where in this country where you can legally
> take a "street legal" car to the limit.

Sure there is. You can go to autocrosses, you can go to
high-performance driver's schools, you can practice doing 0-55 in
5 seconds, you can go around corners without slowing down...

Yes, we need to get a lobby started and get rid of this silly
55mph nonsense. But until then, fun is where you find it.

By the way, the infamous bug took a byte out of the original
article.  I'll post the path that it took to ihuxl to net.news.
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richa@tekred.UUCP (Rich Amber ) (07/06/84)

(this line for those computers who eat strange things)

Point of clarification to original posting:

I meant to say there is no place where one can legally take a
car to its <SPEED> limits <ON PUBLIC PROPERTY>.

I am well aware of drag races, road courses and autocrosses.
I am an avid autocrosser and ralley driver, etc., but you do
NOT need a car that does 0-60 in 5 seconds or costs $30,000-
$150,000 to do these things. That was the intended point...

review@drutx.UUCP (07/14/84)

[Flames from Fiero Owners]

Buy a Fiero? Never! I rented one, (To be fair, an automatic) and I
would never buy one. It didn't have any power (compaired to my Dodge
Daytona) and seemed poorly engineered. Any car that has the spark
plugs facing so that you have to climb over the engine to change
them was designed by morons! (Sorry, when I saw that, I quit
looking, I didn't look to see where the oil filter/drain plug were)
OH well, I guess that sounds like typical GM design. (Note the tone,
I don't like GM, after my experince with them) The Fiero did have
one rediming factor tho, the speakers in the headrest. They did
sound good.

Brian Millham
AT & T Information Systems Labs
Denver, Co

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P.S. 
	I have never driven one of the new 'vetts