potter@ultima.cs.uts.oz (John Potter) (11/28/89)
Within the Computer Science Dept here at the University of Technology, Sydney, we are teaching Eiffel within our introductory programming subjects. I would be interested in making contact with other people attempting to do the same, to discuss general approaches, educational goals and any problems. My primary interest is to address the use of Eiffel as *the* vehicle for learning introductory programming principles and concepts.
jcm@mstr.hgc.edu (James McKim) (07/10/90)
Netters,
I work at the Hartford Graduate Center which caters almost exclusively
to students who are working full time and seeking their Master's degrees
in the evening. We have more than 400 students in the Computer Science
program. These are people who either are, or soon will be, in a position
to influence which languages, software, hardware, etc. their companies
will use. Obviously their experiences at the Graduate Center greatly
influence them.
I am convinced that they should be exposed to Eiffel. In fact I would
like to see Eiffel eventually become the dominant language in our
curriculum. As we are going through something of a budget crunch
and every expenditure must be well justified. I am hoping that some of you
can help me make that justification. Specifically,
1. Can anyone supply me with educational institutions that are using
Eiffel and that I could contact or visit? An institution running
Eiffel on SUN 3/50's with 4 megs of memory would be ideal, since
that's what we have.
2. Does anyone have a list and brief descriptions of industrial/business
applications in which Eiffel was used, or a way that I could compile
such a list?
3. I assume Eiffel has been most commonly used to teach software
engineering and OOP/D courses. Has it been used to teach data structures,
systems programming, operating systems, compiler theory, graphics,
human computer interface, or OO Database Management courses?
4. Has Eiffel been endorsed by any 'big names' in the industry (excluding
Bertrand, of course)?
5. Are there any studies comparing Eiffel to other OO languages?
We enter a new fiscal year on July 1. The month of July is probably the
time that money will be the most available. Anything you can do to help
me make my case would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim