darcyh@eiffel.UUCP (Darcy Harrison) (07/26/90)
The following announcement (extracted from a recent press release) should be of interest to readers of this news group. INTERACTIVE AND THE KNOWLEDGE KONNECTION ANNOUNCE AGREEMENT FOR PORTING EIFFEL ON MACINTOSH OPERATING SYSTEM Interactive Software Engineering announced today that it has signed a formal agreement with The Knowledge Konnection (Oxnard, CA) for porting its Eiffel software on the Macintosh operating system. Eiffel is an advanced object-oriented language, method and environment designed for the production of high quality software. Eiffel emphasizes reusability, extendibility, correctness and robustness. ``We are excited about bringing Eiffel to the Macintosh,'' said Joseph S. Terry, Jr., president of The Knowledge Konnection. ``We chose Eiffel because Eiffel is designed to take maximum advantage of object-oriented design software engineering techniques.'' According to Darcy Harrison, ISE's Director of Marketing, ``This high-caliber combination of Eiffel and the Macintosh will be the cornerstone in the object-oriented engineering of quality software for production applications in the PC world.'' (Rest of press release omitted.) -- Darcy Harrison darcyh@eiffel.com
jr@amanue.UUCP (Jim Rosenberg) (07/28/90)
In <379@eiffel.UUCP> darcyh@eiffel.UUCP (Darcy Harrison) writes: >Interactive Software Engineering announced today that it has >signed a formal agreement with The Knowledge Konnection (Oxnard, CA) for >porting its Eiffel software on the Macintosh operating system. I am disturbed that Eiffel is being ported to the Mac and to MS-DOS by different companies. The $64K question in my mind is that between these three companies (including ISE) what is the commitment to portability of the *class libraries*? If the articles announcing these ports mentioned this I surely missed it. Will I be able to write GUI code in Eiffel which is completely portable between X, Mac OS, and Windows 3.0? (Without having to invent my own class libraries, of course!!) Are all the companies involved COMMITTED to this? If not, folks, you are *missing the boat*. As a programmer who has written not a line of Eiffel code, but who is most impressed with Dr. Meyer's book, I can tell you that I would not touch Eiffel with a ten foot pole unless portability of the GUI class library interface can be achieved. -- Jim Rosenberg -- cgh!amanue!jr CIS: 71515,124 UUCP: / / | WELL: jer dsi.com pitt! ditka! BIX: jrosenberg Internet: cgh!amanue!jr@dsi.com
jwg1@gte.com (James W. Gish) (08/08/90)
In article <481@amanue.UUCP> jr@amanue.UUCP (Jim Rosenberg) writes: > ... Will I be able to write GUI code in Eiffel which is > completely portable between X, Mac OS, and Windows 3.0? (Without having to > invent my own class libraries, of course!!) Are all the companies involved > COMMITTED to this? If not, folks, you are *missing the boat*. As a programmer > who has written not a line of Eiffel code, but who is most impressed with Dr. > Meyer's book, I can tell you that I would not touch Eiffel with a ten foot pole > unless portability of the GUI class library interface can be achieved. Well, let's not jump to conclusions here. Since you haven't written any Eiffel, then you haven't used the graphics class library either. You might want to look at it before you decide whether or not to base your decision to use Eiffel on whether that particular library is portable! (Also, the current graphics library depends on X, so it would have to be modified to sit on Windows 3.0, and use on the Mac would require X, or it would have to be modified to use the Toolbox.) ISE's original plans, as I recall, call for a, what you might call "technology independent" graphics library, but they're not quite there. -- Jim Gish (jgish@gte.com) Principal Investigator Software Reusability Project GTE Laboratories Inc.