miket@bnrmtv.UUCP (Michael Thompson) (05/03/89)
I don't think my first posting made it on the net, so I am trying again. Sorry if this is redundant. --------- Greetings, I have been away from the X Windows world for about 6 months now and I was wondering if any products have been introduced recently (or are about to be released) which allow a source file for SunView to be compiled and run under X Windows. A while ago, Sun announced View2 (now called XView) which claimed to do this. Were they successful and is it available yet? If this information has already been gone over in these groups, I am sorry to post such a request, but could anyone send me a summary of what was discussed. What I would like to be able to do is take an application written for SunView and be able to compile and link it with a library so that it behaves as a standard X Window client. Any information on commercial or publically available SunView X Windows toolkits would be very much appreciated. Thank you, Mike Thompson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael P. Thompson, Member Scientific Staff | ### | BNR/Northern Telcom, Dept. 4Z15 | #### ##### ######### | 685A E. Middlefield Road | ############ ########### | Mountain View, CA 94039-7277 | #### #### #### | PH. (415) 940-2575 FAX. (415) 966-1067 | #### ####### ######## | amdahl! --\ | #### ##### ###### | UUCP. ames! ----->-- bnrmtv!miket | | hplabs! --/ | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomj@snowking.Sun.COM (Tom Jacobs) (05/19/89)
In article <5381@bnrmtv.UUCP> miket@bnrmtv.UUCP (Michael Thompson) writes: > I don't think my first posting made it on the net, so I am trying again. > Sorry if this is redundant. > --------- > Greetings, > > I have been away from the X Windows world for about 6 months now and I > was wondering if any products have been introduced recently (or are about > to be released) which allow a source file for SunView to be compiled > and run under X Windows. A while ago, Sun announced View2 (now called > XView) which claimed to do this. Were they successful and is it > available yet? If this information has already been gone over in these > groups, I am sorry to post such a request, but could anyone send me > a summary of what was discussed. XView is currently in beta test. We have shipped beta tapes to two dozen official beta sites, and several hundred ISVs and volume users. Initial feedback is very good. A beta-2 release is about a month away. Full customer availability is scheduled for late summer. XView provides a very high degree of source compatibility with existing SunView programs (and with trained SunView programmers). If a transition from SunView to X11 -- with the least possible effort -- is your goal, XView's automated source conversion utility will do much of the work. > What I would like to be able to do is take an application written for > SunView and be able to compile and link it with a library so that it > behaves as a standard X Window client. Any information on commercial > or publically available SunView X Windows toolkits would be very much > appreciated. Sorry, no compile-and-run solution exists. The differences between a kernel-based window system, like SunWindows, and a server-based window system are too great to allow SunView applications to be recompiled and work correctly on X11. But X11/NeWS has something that might be even better for your needs. The X11/NeWS window server provides full binary compatibility for SunView binaries to run "on top of" the X11 and NeWS windows. You can CUT & PASTE between SunView, XView, and any X11 applications which follow the ICCCM selection guidelines. You can also CUT & PASTE to and from NeWS clients. Of course, you cannot run the SunView application on a different machine than the X11/NeWS server is running on. If you don't need network operation, then you don't even need to recompile... but if you choose to convert your SunView application to XView, then you will get network operation and OPEN LOOK. The tools and documentation to ease conversion are available. XView will ship as part of OpenWindows, which also includes X11/NeWS and the OpenWindows DeskSet applications, on all three Sun architectures. The XView source will be freely available from the X Consortium as part of the X11 R4 release (and available via FTP before R4 is ready). That's right, XView source is free. No licensing required. Beta snapshots of XView source are also being made available to some hardware vendors and major ISVs even before the source is donated to the X Consortium. Licensing terms the same (that is, *free*). For more information, contact: Smita Deshpande (smitad@sun.com) Sun Microsystems, XView Marketing Manager 2550 Garcia Avenue, 12-33 Mountain View, CA 94043 (415)336-4829 Tom Jacobs (tomj@sun.com) Sun Microsystems ========================================================