[u3b.tech] Hard disk parameters....

greg@gagme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) (03/26/91)

I just got this hard drive that I would like to use on my
3B2/300.

It's a full height hard drive that has labels from
both CDC and AT&T on it.  There is a stamp that says
67 Meg on the top.  What are the parameters that I need
to give to idtools to format it???

Is this the infamous drive that is often found in 3B1's???

Please reply by E-mail.

Thanks.

-greg


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woods@eci386.uucp (Greg A. Woods) (03/29/91)

In article <1283@gagme.chi.il.us> greg@gagme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:
> It's a full height hard drive that has labels from
> both CDC and AT&T on it.  There is a stamp that says
> 67 Meg on the top.  What are the parameters that I need
> to give to idtools to format it???

Uh, it would help if you told us what *all* the labels said in detail.

I would guess that it is actually a CDC Wren II 72 Mb drive with 9
heads, and 905 cylinders -- but check the idtools manual.  The 3b1
manual notes a Miniscribe "67 Mb" drive with 8 heads and 1024
cylinders which you could also use.

If you've been reading in comp.sys.3b1 lately, then you will have seen
all the various discussions about why AT&T label the 3b1 drive as 67 Mb
(w.r.t. the 3b1) while CDC call it a 72 Mb drive.

The maximum usable bytes with ST-506/MFM format would be:

	CDC:		9 * 905 * 18 * 512 = 75,064,320 bytes
	Miniscribe:	8 * 1024 * 18 * 512 = 75,497,472 bytes

> Is this the infamous drive that is often found in 3B1's???

Or it's the standard 3b2 drive (72 Mb) -- they are almost identical.

Note that the 3b1 only "uses" 16 (512 byte) sectors per track while
the 3b2 is quite happy to use the maximum of 18.

> Please reply by E-mail.

Oops!  :-)  (I'll forward it too)
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hpn@area88.uucp (Huy Nguyen) (03/30/91)

In article <1991Mar28.172224.17991@eci386.uucp> woods@eci386.UUCP (Greg A. Woods) writes:
>
>I would guess that it is actually a CDC Wren II 72 Mb drive with 9
>heads, and 905 cylinders -- but check the idtools manual.  The 3b1
>manual notes a Miniscribe "67 Mb" drive with 8 heads and 1024
>cylinders which you could also use.
>
>							Greg A. Woods
>woods@{eci386,gate,robohack,ontmoh,tmsoft}.UUCP		ECI and UniForum Canada
>+1-416-443-1734 [h]  +1-416-595-5425 [w]  VE3TCP	Toronto, Ontario CANADA
>Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible-ORWELL

idtools?  I've seen other references to idtools, but what is it? And is it
for 3b2s? (And, where can one get it?)


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woods@eci386.uucp (Greg A. Woods) (04/03/91)

In article <1991Mar30.040106.613@area88.uucp> hpn@area88.uucp (Huy Nguyen) writes:
> idtools?  I've seen other references to idtools, but what is it? And is it
> for 3b2s? (And, where can one get it?)
> -- 
> Huy Nguyen					| AT&T Explorer Scouts Post 71
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From AT&T!  It comes with the 3b2 service manual.
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