tvasik@pyramid.pyramid.com (Tom Vasik) (02/10/89)
Has anyone succeeded in getting Microsft Windows to use Expanded Memory? I would be very surprised if there is anyone! Any replies welcome. Tom Vasak Pyramid Technology 250 Farnborough Rd Farnborough Hants UK
roper@june.cs.washington.edu (Michael Roper) (02/10/89)
Tom Vasik writes: > Has anyone succeeded in getting Microsft Windows to use > Expanded Memory? You'll have to elaborate. I'll assume you're running 2.1 and LIM 4.0 expanded memory. Windows 286 uses expanded memory automatically. Also, a Windows app can manage any available expanded memory itself (Excel). Make sure you've installed Windows correctly and don't see any errors when you start up. If you are running Windows 386, then you may have a problem. Expanded memory must be converted to extended memory and no EMM can be installed because Windows uses its own EMM which simulates expanded memory. This is documented in the "Getting Started with Windows/386" booklet. Mike Roper
rich@se-sd.sandiego.ncr.com (Rich Hume) (02/11/89)
In article <58501@pyramid.pyramid.com> tvasik@pyramid.pyramid.com (Tom Vasik) writes: >Has anyone succeeded in getting Microsft Windows to use >Expanded Memory? > >I would be very surprised if there is anyone! >Any replies welcome. > Certainly! We use 386MAX to emulate LIM 4.0 expanded memory in extended memory and Windows/286 recognizes and uses it. We have also used an AST expanded memory board which Windows/286 used. rich.hume@sandiego.NCR.COM
caa@midgard.Midgard.MN.ORG (Charles A Anderson) (02/11/89)
In article <58501@pyramid.pyramid.com> tvasik@pyramid.pyramid.com (Tom Vasik) writes: |Has anyone succeeded in getting Microsft Windows to use |Expanded Memory? | |I would be very surprised if there is anyone! |Any replies welcome. | |Tom Vasak |Pyramid Technology |250 Farnborough Rd |Farnborough Hants UK Yes we have, we have had no problems using expanded memory on a Z-248, 286, and 386 using a rampage card and the remm.sys which came on the windows utility (I think???) disk. You have to be using LIM 4.0. What are you running? -- Charles Anderson | People of the Earth can you hear me? caa@midgard.mn.org | Came a voice from the sky on that magical night ...!amdahl!bungia!midgard!caa | And in the colours of a thousand sunsets Ma Bell (612) 853-3466 -work | They traveled to the world on a silvery light 735-3953 home 290-8062 / >5pm | -Billy Thorpe, Children Of The Sun
brown@nicmad.UUCP (Vidiot) (02/12/89)
In article <58501@pyramid.pyramid.com> tvasik@pyramid.pyramid.com (Tom Vasik) writes:
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<I would be very surprised if there is anyone!
You're right, it would be a surprise since MS Windows doesn't use it.
Windows/386 uses extended memory only. Windows/286 may be the same way.
I have no idea about regular 8088 type Windows.
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ARPA/INTERNET: nicmad!brown%astroatc.UUCP@spool.cs.wisc.edubeckman@dev386.UUCP (Zacharias Beckman) (02/14/89)
There are currently two implementations of Windows: Windows/286 and Windows/386, both of which make use of expanded memory. Windows/386 can, in addition, convert extended memory to expanded memory; thus, it uses both. There is no '8088 version of Windows'.
alb1@rruxw.UUCP (Albert L Barbee) (02/16/89)
+<Has anyone succeeded in getting Microsft Windows to use
+<Expanded Memory?
+<
+<I would be very surprised if there is anyone!
+You're right, it would be a surprise since MS Windows doesn't use it.
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+Windows/386 uses extended memory only. Windows/286 may be the same way.
+I have no idea about regular 8088 type Windows.
Wrong. Windows/286 Manual page 241 - Using Expanded Memory with MS-Windows
states "Windows can use expanded memory for applications and data if
your computers expanded memory manager has special support for windows."
Next paragraph: "Windows can not use extended memory"
I have windows running on an AST premium 286 and it uses the expanded
memory just fine.
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alb1@bellcore.bellcore.com Piscataway, NJ 08854allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (02/24/89)
As quoted from <435@dev386.UUCP> by beckman@dev386.UUCP (Zacharias Beckman): +--------------- | There are currently two implementations of Windows: Windows/286 and | Windows/386, both of which make use of expanded memory. Windows/386 can, in | addition, convert extended memory to expanded memory; thus, it uses both. | There is no '8088 version of Windows'. +--------------- The product currently known as "Windows/286" is roughly the same Windows that was originally released for 8086/8088 machines. The problem is, a 5MHz 8088 system just plain doesn't have the horsepower to work at a reasonable speed. I've used Windows/286 on an 8088; it works fine, but the miserable performance convinced me to buy an Inboard-386 for my machine. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc allbery@ncoast.org uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu Send comp.sources.misc submissions to comp-sources-misc@<backbone> NCoast Public Access UN*X - (216) 781-6201, 300/1200/2400 baud, login: makeuser