[comp.windows.ms] Re^2: MS Paint problem

mbe@dde.uucp (Martin Berg) (08/09/89)

bturner@hpcvlx.HP.COM (Bill Turner) writes:

>/ hpcvlx:comp.windows.ms / ghodsi@shire.cs.psu.edu (M. Ghodsi) /  2:43 pm  Aug  1, 1989 /

>The MS Paint that I am running does not draw perfect circles; it draws
>ovals instead.  Does any body know what the problem is?

>thanks,

>ghodsi@cs.psu.edu
>----------

>Honest, it is drawing circles....  There is an option available that says whether the
>drawing is formatted for the screen or for the printer.  If you use the default (format
>for printer) then each pixel is drawn as if it has the same aspect ratio of the printer
>(since Paint simply displays the bitmap without any scaling, this is the only way they
>can format it to use the printer's capabilities.)  And since most printers (especially
>laser printers) use square pixels while the displays still use rectangular pixels, 
>things don't look quite right.


>--Bill Turner (bturner@hp-pcd.hp.com)
>HP Corvallis Information Systems

Are you sure ?

I have had this problem with Paint in Windows 2.03 and Windows/286 2.1:

When I choose the circle an oval is draw (I'm able to change the shape 
with the mouse !).

If I instead choose the oval I get a nice circle (on screen and printer).

After I found out I just accepted this as a minor bug with an easy
'work-around'.
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ghodsi@shire.cs.psu.edu (M. Ghodsi) (08/10/89)

on 9 Aug 89 13:18:50 GMT,
mbe@dde.uucp (Martin Berg) said:

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#> bturner@hpcvlx.HP.COM (Bill Turner) writes:

>/ hpcvlx:comp.windows.ms / ghodsi@shire.cs.psu.edu (M. Ghodsi) /  2:43 pm  Aug  1, 1989 /

>The MS Paint that I am running does not draw perfect circles; it draws
>ovals instead.  Does any body know what the problem is?

>thanks,

>ghodsi@cs.psu.edu
>----------

>Honest, it is drawing circles....  There is an option available that says whether the
>drawing is formatted for the screen or for the printer.  If you use the default (format
>for printer) then each pixel is drawn as if it has the same aspect ratio of the printer
>(since Paint simply displays the bitmap without any scaling, this is the only way they
>can format it to use the printer's capabilities.)  And since most printers (especially
>laser printers) use square pixels while the displays still use rectangular pixels, 
>things don't look quite right.


>--Bill Turner (bturner@hp-pcd.hp.com)
>HP Corvallis Information Systems

#> Are you sure ?
#> I have had this problem with Paint in Windows 2.03 and Windows/286 2.1:
#> When I choose the circle an oval is draw (I'm able to change the shape 
#> with the mouse !).
#> If I instead choose the oval I get a nice circle (on screen and printer).
#> After I found out I just accepted this as a minor bug with an easy
#> 'work-around'.


  Bill is correct (thanks Bill ).  This happens when the default format is 
 'printer', if you change it to 'screen' the problem goes  away.


#> -- 
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  ghodsi@shire.cs.psu.edu

ingridt@microsoft.UUCP (Ingrid Tenggren) (08/12/89)

In article <201@mother.dde.uucp> mbe@dde.uucp (Martin Berg) writes:
>bturner@hpcvlx.HP.COM (Bill Turner) writes:
>
>>The MS Paint that I am running does not draw perfect circles; it draws
>>ovals instead.  Does any body know what the problem is?
>Are you sure ?

other stuff deleted...
 
>When I choose the circle an oval is draw (I'm able to change the shape 
>with the mouse !).
>

The problem you guys are having sounds suspiciously like an Aspect Ratio
problem. You need to set the aspect ratio BEFORE you begin your drawing.
The Aspect Ratio defines the ratio of width to height of figures 
on screen. 

Depending on what version of P'brush you have, "Adj. Aspect" may be
on the Misc menu, or somewhere else. 

Squares and circles many times won't be WYSIWYG if you've 
got them set up correctly for your PRINTER, and not the screen. 
It's kind of a trial and error thing.

I recommend you call the Microsoft Hardware product support folks for
further information on any peculiarities....like, if you have a printer
or monitor not on the Supported Hardware list at the back of 
the manual.



ingrid tenggren
Microsoft's Real Swede
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