zech@leadsv.UUCP (Bill Zech) (05/25/90)
In article <20071@grebyn.com>, ted@grebyn.com (Ted Holden) writes: > > Here's what I'm seeing; maybe somebody else is seeing something > different. Windows 3 gives you a standard choice of about 5 monitors, > EGA, VGA, Hercules... You go to load the ATI driver at the "other" > choice, and the first thing you see is a note that 386 enhanced mode > will not run with this card (and you'll probably get this message > with any SVGA). The next thing I see, after going through the entire > five diskette setup process, is that Windows 3 simply doesn't work with > the ATI card. win.com simply goes "poof" and dumps you back out at a > DOS prompt. Right now, UNIX and X-11 are starting to look AWFULLY good. > I just installed Win 3.0 on my system today, with an ATI VGA Wonder. I let Windows choose the VGA driver and mouse for me, and it all works just fine. (this is 640x480x16) I look forward to seeing an SVGA driver for it, but I think ATI will have to supply it. For now I am happy with the standard VGA mode. (My system is a 386 25Mhz / 8 meg; I was running Win/3 for 386 enhanced mode.) - Bill P.S. I think it looks slick and am eager to play with it!
akm@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) (05/25/90)
In article <1990May24.151357.18143@bigsur.uucp> andrzej@bigsur.UUCP (Andrzej Bieszczad) writes: >2. Does anybody know about any plans on behalf of Digitalk to ship > Smaltalk V/Win3.0? How soon? I wrote to Digitalk, and they toldme that they had no plans for a Windows version of Smalltalk. Seems even more unlikely now that IBM has decided that Smalltalk/PM is to be a standard part of their development tools. >3. Any experience with running Smaltalk V/286 from within Win3.0? Please, > do share it. > My guess is that it will not run. I'll check once I have both Win3.0 and V/286 installed. I *believe* that the new himem.sys makes *all* extended memory XMS memory. Also, I don't think that the virtual 86 mode of Win 3.0 will allow protected mode operations. Sigh... So I'll need a program that allows me tochange config.sys and reboot any pointers? I know that some were recently put on the net. kartik ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anant Kartik Mithal akm@cs.uoregon.edu Department of Computer Science akm@oregon.BITNET University of Oregon
andrzej@bigsur.UUCP (Andrzej Bieszczad) (05/25/90)
In article <1990May25.043622.13204@cs.uoregon.edu>, akm@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes: > >2. Does anybody know about any plans on behalf of Digitalk to ship > > Smaltalk V/Win3.0? How soon? > > I wrote to Digitalk, and they toldme that they had no plans for a > Windows version of Smalltalk. Seems even more unlikely now that IBM > has decided that Smalltalk/PM is to be a standard part of their > development tools. > Thanks for sharing info, but since I posted the question I found out that there is a Win3.0 version of Smalltalk V coming in the last quarter of 1990. The information is directly from Digitalk - I called them on May 24, 1990. Somewhere around September they will have all specs, but the fact is that the ST V/Win will be similar to ST V/PM, but without a compiler. Could anybody compare ACTOR with Smalltalk? I have not managed to invoke ST V/286 from within Windows (at least so far). There is some hope in a PIF where one may specify an amount of XMS memory for an application. Has anybody succeeded? Does anybody know why neither DOS Prompt nor command.com can be run on my 386 with 4MB of memory and ATI VGA 512 video card? It gives me communicate that there is not enough memory, which is impossible since the system shows almost 7MB of available virtual memory. I have no problem with running any other DOS application and switching between them (Nota bene: IT WORKS BEAUTIFUL, unless I try to use PIFs). ======================================================================= Andrzej Bieszczad (Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.) Phone: (613) 763-2259 USENET: uunet!bnrgate!bigsur!andrzej Fax: (613) 763-3283 Surface: Dept. 7G12, P.O. Box 3511, Station C, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1Y 4H7 =======================================================================
gyugyi@portia.Stanford.EDU (Paul Gyugyi) (05/26/90)
In article <20071@grebyn.com> ted@grebyn.com (Ted Holden) writes: > >Here's what I'm seeing; maybe somebody else is seeing something >different. Windows 3 gives you a standard choice of about 5 monitors, >EGA, VGA, Hercules... You go to load the ATI driver at the "other" >choice, and the first thing you see is a note that 386 enhanced mode >will not run with this card (and you'll probably get this message >with any SVGA). The next thing I see, after going through the entire >five diskette setup process, is that Windows 3 simply doesn't work with >the ATI card. win.com simply goes "poof" and dumps you back out at a >DOS prompt. Right now, UNIX and X-11 are starting to look AWFULLY good. > > >Ted Holden >HTE I'm not surprised. I dumped my ATI card for a Video7 1024i card, and have reaped the benifits already. I got the new drivers which support svga, and work in /3 mode, yesterday. ATI had lousy support for Win/386 when it came out. -Paul Gyugyi gyugyi@portia.stanford.edu
jwh@flam.ifs.umich.edu (Jim Howe) (05/29/90)
In article <1990May25.043622.13204@cs.uoregon.edu>, akm@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes: |> In article <1990May24.151357.18143@bigsur.uucp> andrzej@bigsur.UUCP (Andrzej Bieszczad) writes: |> >2. Does anybody know about any plans on behalf of Digitalk to ship |> > Smaltalk V/Win3.0? How soon? |> |> I wrote to Digitalk, and they toldme that they had no plans for a |> Windows version of Smalltalk. Seems even more unlikely now that IBM |> has decided that Smalltalk/PM is to be a standard part of their |> development tools. I've heard that Digitalk is planning on shipping a version of Smalltalk V for Windows 3.0 by the end of the year. It is supposed to be a subset of what they offer for PM. This information came from the AIEXPERT forum on Compuserve. I believe the message was from Dan Goldman, a VP at Digitalk. James W. Howe internet: jwh@ifs.umich.edu University of Michigan uucp: uunet!mailrus!ifs.umich.edu!jwh Ann Arbor, MI 48103-4943