guidi@pegasus.UUCP (09/25/84)
No comment on Audi 4000 Quattro... just comment on Audis: Being the unlucky owner of an '82 Audi Coupe GT (actually a 4000 w/5 cyl engine and the lines of a Quattro) I will never, NEVER buy an Audi again. The list of problems, shoddy materials, and encounters with the ORANGUTANGS that work in the Porsche/Audi/VW dealership I bought it from makes one cringe with disgust. I must admit that I've met 2 kinds of Audi owners: happy ones and disgusted ones. But, no matter their particular classification, a little digging will get most to admit that their cars will start falling apart after the first 20-30K miles... and is it expensive to get them fixed right!
mrh@aluxz.UUCP (HUDOCK) (09/27/84)
> No comment on Audi 4000 Quattro... just comment on Audis: Being the > unlucky owner of an '82 Audi Coupe GT (actually a 4000 w/5 cyl engine > and the lines of a Quattro) I will never, NEVER buy an Audi again. > The list of problems, shoddy materials, and encounters with the > ORANGUTANGS that work in the Porsche/Audi/VW dealership I bought it > from makes one cringe with disgust. I must admit that I've met 2 > kinds of Audi owners: happy ones and disgusted ones. But, no matter > their particular classification, a little digging will get most to admit > that their cars will start falling apart after the first 20-30K miles... > and is it expensive to get them fixed right! I have a 1980 Audi 4000 4cyl/4spd. with 65,000 miles and love the car. When the day comes to replace this car it will be with another Audi. DEFECTS ENCOUNTERED: at 7000 miles waterpump began to leak. Repaired under warrt. at 60,0000 miles timing belt broke. Repaired at dealer for 110.00 This are the only major problems I've encountered. The dealer service center has been excellent. I wish you would have been more specific with the problems you have encountered. The bottom line is, of all the cars I've owned the Audi cost me the least in repairs, and has been the best to drive.
levy@trsvax.UUCP (10/15/84)
I've had a 1980 4000 since 9/79. It is the least reliable, most expensive to maintain, most troublesome car I've ever had. Dealer service and support are just plain unacceptable and the distributorship/manufacturer have been somewhere between unhelpful and obstructive in trying to get dealers to correct warranty problems or even to fix problems their own foulups cause. Trouble areas include body panel fit, rust, paint, water leaks, electrical gremlins, rattles, multiple sound system failures, clutch failure, the shift linkage falling apart, the alternator mount breaking, two air- conditioner failures... plus I've spent close to $2000 on repairs made necessary by poor dealer workmanship which neither the dealers involved nor Audi cared to do anything about. When the car works right, it is a joy. But I'll never buy another. In fact, I'll sell you mine CHEAP. trsvax!levy
rjz@ihnss.UUCP (R. Zurawski) (10/18/84)
I own an '83 Audi GT Coupe, and I became some what concerned at the comments made on the net about Audi's falling apart after 20-30K miles. I bought my Coupe on the recommendation of my cousin who owns an '81 5000 and a co-worker who owns an '82 GT Coupe, both have 40k+ on their cars. Both of them told me that they had little problems with their cars. I did have one major problem with my car in the 14 months I've had it. About two weeks after I bought the car, the voltage regulator with out. But since then all I've had to do was change the oil and get a tune up. I've got 20k on it now. There is a gentleman in my department who is from Holland and is very familiar with European cars. He said that Audi has a good reputation in Europe and that his wife had an Audi 100 that she was very happy with. He told me that the reason why Audi has a bum name in the U.S. is because Americans don't treat their cars as well as they do in Europe. In Europe people treat cars better and take better care of their cars. The German auto magazines blame Audi's bad reputation in the U.S. because of the way Americans treat there cars. As he explained it to me, "in America, people still think they can treat their cars like the 1960's V8's. Pour some oil in the car every 10,000 miles and thats it." He pointed out to me that in Europe, the Audi 100 and Fox were very popular cars and they enjoyed good reputations. While in the U.S., these cars pick up bad reputations because Americans didn't take care of them. I will admit that the care is expensive to maintain, (ie. my tune up ran $100.00), but the way the car handles and feels on the road, it's worth it. As far has having a dealership fix my car, I would rather set fire to it. Audi dealer service organizations are rude, arrogant, and unfriendly. The key to having your Audi fixed is to find an independent garage to do the work. I think I found one in Naperville, IL. For those in the area, the name of the place is called German Auto Works. The only thing they have done for me was to tune my car. They did a good job and where 500% more friendly then the dealership was. I've heard that GAW is selective in the type of work they are willing to do. Has anyone out there had any experience with them? Please comment. Bob Zurawski ...!ihnp4!ihnss!rjz
hrs@houxb.UUCP (H.SILBIGER) (10/18/84)
The german comments that the reason german cars such as the Audi do poorly in the US because Americans don't treat their carss right should be taken with a grain of salt. Japanese cars have the same complexity and high revving engines, and they are very reliable.
bbanerje@sjuvax.UUCP (B. Banerjee) (10/20/84)
>> When the car works right, it is a joy. But I'll never buy another. In >> fact, I'll sell you mine CHEAP. >> >> trsvax!levy Sounds like a Fiat 131S Mirafiori I once owned. Regards, -- Binayak Banerjee {allegra | astrovax | bpa | burdvax}!sjuvax!bbanerje P.S. Send Flames, I love mail.