lchen@cs.ubc.ca (Lee Li-Jen Chen) (06/11/90)
Hi: Does anyone has experience with Toolbook for Windows 3.0?
How good is it? Is it really easy to use?
Please post your comments. Thank you.
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Lee Chen <lchen@cs.ubc.ca> 1990 06 11tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) (06/11/90)
You want Experiences with ToolBook... here goes Installation was the first fun part. It wouldn't accept the second disk and I had to copy the two disks into a directory and install it from there. (In hindsight I had a similar problem recently that was fixed by switching from Dos 4.00 to DOS 4.01 so maybe it isn't Toolbooks fault) (When I called Microsoft they had heard of this problem and offered the solution I had already arrived at!) TWO other people here that got WIndows the same day I did had BAD disk 2 disks. Not readable at all!! Actual use... Well it sure looks slick. Looks like SuperCard on the PC but I have to admit it is a bit slow. I am on a PS/2 model 70 386 16Mhz and there are some delays waiting for things to arrive. I don't know about links to the outside. I want to be able to control a video disk. I want to have sound "Xcmds" I want I want I want... tj
zimmer@cod.NOSC.MIL (Thomas L. Zimmerman) (06/12/90)
From article <1990Jun11.134902.1631@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, by tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones): > You want Experiences with ToolBook... here goes > > Installation was the first fun part. It wouldn't accept the second > disk and I had to copy the two disks into a directory and install I didn't have any trouble with the installation - maybe that's because I'm still running DOS 3.xx. :-) > Actual use... > > Well it sure looks slick. Looks like SuperCard on the PC but I have > to admit it is a bit slow. I am on a PS/2 model 70 386 16Mhz and there are > some delays waiting for things to arrive. > It does look good. I have quite a bit of Hypercard/Supercard experience and this looks like an easy transition. On a quick initial look the features all seem to be there. However, on a 286 machine with 1M extended memory, running Windows 3 in standard mode IT IS VERY SLOW! We're talking several seconds to react to a mouse click (by reversing the highlight of a button) and 20-30 seconds to change books (their term for Hypercard's stacks). I'd love to use it - but not until its a lot faster. Lee Zimmerman Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego zimmer@nosc.mil -- Lee Zimmerman, Naval Ocean Systems Center, Code 421, San Diego, CA, 92152 {arpa,mil}net: zimmer@nosc.mil uucp: {ihnp4,akgua,decvax,dcdwest,ucbvax}!sdcsvax!nosc!zimmer
fraley@hprnd.HP.COM (Andy Fraley) (06/14/90)
> Does anyone know the price in US$ of Asymetrix's ToolBook product? Asymetrix Toolbook Construction Set is $329.99 from Egghead software, Sacramento, CA (Egghead is national). > I wonder how long before somebody sues somebody over this. Let's see...it took Apple about a year to sue HP for NewWave... - Andy Fraley
hjb@otter.hpl.hp.com (Harry Barman) (07/16/90)
I phoned up Asymetrix just now.... They *don't* have any links to the outside world apart from their direct-dial BBS. Apparently there is a conference under ms-windows on Compuserve that they keep an eye on. So no e-mail, no internet access, usual head-in-the-sand attitude... sigh Cheers, Harry
bchin@wam.umd.edu (Weiyuan W. Chin) (07/17/90)
In message <10960014@otter.hpl.hp.com> hjb@otter.hpl.hp.com (Harry Barman) says: >They *don't* have any links to the outside world apart from their direct-dial >BBS. Apparently there is a conference under ms-windows on Compuserve that they >keep an eye on. There is a Toolbook conference on BIX (Byte Information Exchange) in which a/some Asymetrix employee(s) keep(s) an eye on. Its under the Microsoft conference. Haven't seen much activity there except for a tip to turn color on for the demo if the auto-install screws up. I was planning on using the Daybook demo that comes with Windows however the program is too slow... I just downloaded Almanac from cica.cica.indiana.edu and it looks more promising. -- Bill Chin University of Maryland College Park internet: bchin@cville.umd.edu
patrickd@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick Deupree) (07/17/90)
In article <10960014@otter.hpl.hp.com> hjb@otter.hpl.hp.com (Harry Barman) writes: }I phoned up Asymetrix just now.... } }They *don't* have any links to the outside world apart from their direct-dial }BBS. Apparently there is a conference under ms-windows on Compuserve that they }keep an eye on. } }So no e-mail, no internet access, usual head-in-the-sand attitude... sigh Actually, to some extent, I can understand why most all the smaller Windows companies are not on here. Since internet, e-mail and news access usually involve using a unix (or, ugh, VMS) system it's doubtful that a DOS company would be interested in such things. The only reason I'm on here is that I used UseNet when I was in college and did everything I could to convince the higher ups in our company that it was worthwhile to keep track of things here. As it is, most of what I do here is my own personal thing and no-body else in the company reads or keeps track of it. However, we do have a group of rebels here that want to secretly set up a Unix server and get us on UseNet as an actual node. -- "Organized fandom is composed of a bunch of nitpickers with a thing for trivial pursuit." -Harlan Ellison Patrick Deupree -> patrickd@chinet.chi.il.us