[comp.windows.ms] SHARE and Excel 2.1C upgrade

marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) (08/01/90)

Maybe I can save someone a little time with this post.

I just got my Excel 2.1C upgrade kit from MS.  I started the
installation process, but when SETUP went to read the second disk, it 
said it was defective.

I tested it with Norton Disk Doctor.  I copied it to another disk.  No
problems.

Then I remembered that I couldn't create a permanent swap file when I
had SUBSTituted drives, so I got rid of them.  That didn't help either.

Then it dawned on me that MS can't create a Setup program that will run
when their own SHARE program is loaded.  I renamed SHARE.EXE to S.EXE
and rebooted.  Everything worked fine.

Why the hell can't MS warn people about this when they send out the
upgrade?  This cost me nearly an hour - not counting this flame.

@#$%!& I HATE SHARE!!!

Hope this helps.

PS.  The rumor that MS will send a copy of Win3 when you ask for the
     free Excel upgrade without Win3 is not true - at least not anymore.
     I only got two Excel floppies.  8-(
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mutchler@zule.EBay (Dan Mutchler) (08/01/90)

I've seen the same problem when installing Excel 2.0, but I have to run
SHARE because I have a large drive formatted as a single partition. Anybody
know of a work around for this, besides manually copying the diskettes?

Thanks
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marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) (08/03/90)

mutchler@zule.EBay (Dan Mutchler) writes:


>I've seen the same problem when installing Excel 2.0, but I have to run
>SHARE because I have a large drive formatted as a single partition. Anybody
>know of a work around for this, besides manually copying the diskettes?

The answer is to rename SHARE.EXE to something else.  Reboot.  Install
Excel.  Restore SHARE.EXE to its original name.  Reboot again.  This is
what MS told me to do.  I also have a single 322 MByte partition, but
this works fine.  I do this for all WinApps installs, but I normally run
with SHARE loaded.  I just wish MS would remind us of this "feature" in
their installation documentation so we wouldn't waste so much time before 
we remember to rename SHARE.
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gt0159a@prism.gatech.EDU (LEVINSON,MARC LOUIS) (08/03/90)

In article <marshall.649453571@wind55> marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) writes:
>installation process, but when SETUP went to read the second disk, it 
>said it was defective.
>
>I tested it with Norton Disk Doctor.  I copied it to another disk.  No
>Then it dawned on me that MS can't create a Setup program that will run
>when their own SHARE program is loaded.  I renamed SHARE.EXE to S.EXE
>and rebooted.  Everything worked fine.
>
>Why the hell can't MS warn people about this when they send out the
>upgrade?  This cost me nearly an hour - not counting this flame.
>

I had the same problem and spent a phone call to Microsoft about it!
Win3 made meload SHARE for the first time ever (Compaq DOS 3.3) and I 
forgot it was running.  The tech rep cleared it up right away, told me
to kill SHARE for thew install.

Now to me, this seems STUPID!!!  Why? because Windows 3 requires share
to be loaded.  I asked the tech rep why a warning about SHARE was not
on the upgrade letter/instructions or in the README file and his answer was,
MS: "We don't want to badmouth anybody elses product"
to which I replied,
ml:  WHOSE?
MS: "IBM PCDOS"
ml: BUT Microsoft licenced DOS to IBM and includes (or wrote) SHARE with
    every copy of their operating system.  Besides, Win3 REQUIRES SHARE to
    be loaded, therefore somebody should have added a warning instead of
    causing unneccessarry disk error messages.
MS: "we did not want to cause alarm"
ml: Tell Mr. Gates to get his departments coordinated, it's a hell of a 
    lot cheaper to print or type one sentance than to have the technicians 
    spend half their time answerinf STUPID questions for errors which should
    not have occured!


I can't badmouth Microsoft too much.  Sure they use a lot of *CHEAP*
quality (read: bad, not functional, not readable) distribution diskettes,
but has anybody else in TV land ever received a faster mail in upgrade than 
Win3?  Igot mine in less than two weeks from the day I mailed in the form
(from Florida - east coast all the way to Seattle).


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