nadkarni@ashok.nac.dec.com (ashok p. nadkarni) (08/03/90)
I am having problems setting up Windows 3.0 in 386 enhanced mode. Setup - 386SX with 2 Megs, WD1006MMV HD controller, Everex EV391 expanded memory card (EMS 3.2), Phoenix BIOS (not sure what version), DOS 3.1. No TSR's. If I load the Everex EMS driver through my config.sys file, Windows always starts up in Standard mode. On the other hand without the EMS driver, Windows comes up in 386 Enhanced mode as expected but then I have no way of using the 2Meg on my expanded memory board since the driver is not installed. So with the EMS driver loaded, I tried starting up Windows with the 3 option to force 386 enhanced mode. Windows exited with a 'error: could not lead 386 enhanced mode expanded memorydriver.' or something similar. So I thought OK, Windows is trying to load its expanded memory driver and failing because there is already a EMS driver installed. So I tried the /n option (which disables use of expanded memory or something). Still got the same error message. So then I tried setting the following in my SYSTEM.INI file NoEMMDriver=true Still no go. So I added another line EMMExclude=A000-EFFF in case there was a conflict when Windows scanned memory. Still no go. Does someone out there have an answer as to what might be wrong ? Will 386 enhanced mode refuse to work if there is a EMS 3.2 driver ? THe user guide clearly states (in the section on 386 enhanced mode) to load the EMS card's driver so my configuration does not seem illegal. In case it is related, loading windows in 386 enhanced or even standard mode seems to take a long time with a LOT of disk activity. Real mode is much faster. Is this normal ? HELP!! Ashok Nadkarni
heiser@tdw201.ed.ray.com (08/07/90)
In article <14207@shlump.nac.dec.com> nadkarni@ashok.nac.dec.com (ashok p. nadkarni) writes: > >In case it is related, loading windows in 386 enhanced or even standard mode >seems to take a long time with a LOT of disk activity. Real mode is much >faster. Is this normal ? > On my 386/25, it takes 14-15 seconds to load. Is it taking longer than that for you? -- Bill Heiser Work: heiser@tdw201.ed.ray.com {decuac,necntc,uunet}!rayssd!tdw201!heiser Home: Bill.Heiser@f240.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Fidonet 1:322/240) The Think_Tank BBS (508)655-3848 1200/2400/9600-HST Other: 75106.2332@compuserve.com Other: heiser@world.std.com (Public Access Unix)
patrickd@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick Deupree) (08/08/90)
In article <14207@shlump.nac.dec.com> nadkarni@ashok.nac.dec.com (ashok p. nadkarni) writes: >In case it is related, loading windows in 386 enhanced or even standard mode >seems to take a long time with a LOT of disk activity. Real mode is much >faster. Is this normal ? When running in enhanced or standard mode, Windows has to create a swap file on the disk. It will basically use up a bit of your disk for this file. In real mode, this operation is not necessary since you don't have virtual memory. This being the case, it will start up much faster. -- "Organized fandom is composed of a bunch of nitpickers with a thing for trivial pursuit." -Harlan Ellison Patrick Deupree -> patrickd@chinet.chi.il.us
pnl@hpfinote.HP.COM (Peter Lim) (08/09/90)
> > > >In case it is related, loading windows in 386 enhanced or even standard mode > >seems to take a long time with a LOT of disk activity. Real mode is much > >faster. Is this normal ? > > > > On my 386/25, it takes 14-15 seconds to load. Is it taking longer than > that for you? > > -- > Bill Heiser > Work: heiser@tdw201.ed.ray.com > {decuac,necntc,uunet}!rayssd!tdw201!heiser > Home: Bill.Heiser@f240.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Fidonet 1:322/240) > The Think_Tank BBS (508)655-3848 1200/2400/9600-HST > Other: 75106.2332@compuserve.com > Other: heiser@world.std.com (Public Access Unix) > ---------- Let me take a wild guess here. I thought 15 seconds ins't very long. Anyway, why don't you use a disk cache program (like PC-KWIK I'm using). My 386/25 (no RAM cache) loads in about 8 seconds. And definitely no disk trashing. By the way, I have about 2 MB cache in extended memory. Regards, ## Life is fast enough as it is ........ Peter Lim. ## .... DON'T PUSH IT !! >>>-------, ########################################### : E-mail: plim@hpsgwg.HP.COM Snail-mail: Hewlett Packard Singapore, : Tel: (065)-279-2289 (ICDS, ICS) | Telnet: 520-2289 1150 Depot Road, __\@/__ ... also at: pnl@hpfipnl.HP.COM Singapore 0410. SPLAT !
heiser@sud509.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser - Unix Sys Admin) (08/11/90)
In article <18950002@hpfinote.HP.COM> pnl@hpfinote.HP.COM (Peter Lim) writes: > >Anyway, why don't you use a disk cache program (like PC-KWIK I'm using). >My 386/25 (no RAM cache) loads in about 8 seconds. And definitely no >disk trashing. By the way, I have about 2 MB cache in extended memory. > Well, I have 8mb of RAM, with a 4mb Cache. The 386/25 has no cpu cache. I would guess that if I were to load windows, then exit and re-load it, the start-up time would be significantly less. I'll try it and see. -- Bill Heiser Work: heiser@tdw201.ed.ray.com {decuac,necntc,uunet}!rayssd!tdw201!heiser Home: Bill.Heiser@f240.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Fidonet 1:322/240) The Think_Tank BBS (508)655-3848 1200/2400/9600-HST Other: 75106.2332@compuserve.com Other: heiser@world.std.com (Public Access Unix)
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) (08/16/90)
In article <2020@sud509.ed.ray.com> heiser@tdw201.ed.ray.com writes: >In article <14207@shlump.nac.dec.com> nadkarni@ashok.nac.dec.com (ashok p. nadkarni) writes: >> >>In case it is related, loading windows in 386 enhanced or even standard mode >>seems to take a long time with a LOT of disk activity. Real mode is much >>faster. Is this normal ? >> > >On my 386/25, it takes 14-15 seconds to load. Is it taking longer than >that for you? > My 386/25 only takes about 5 seconds to come up (to a basic screen with just the program manager running.). Of course, I have a SCSI system and Wren IV drives that clocks in at > 1.3Mbyte / sec transfer rate. I think disk access has a lot to do with windows performance. Since it is so fast, I also bring up the file manager as an icon, that takes a few more seconds while it sorts out the directories, but it is quite acceptable. Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254