peter@cbnewsc.att.com (peter.pavlovcik) (08/30/90)
>Anybody thinking of buying a commercial package would be well advised to >wait for a few weeks and get by with what you are currently using. I am >currently beta-testing a Windows communication package, Wincomm, which >is about ready for release and, at least for my needs, blows away all >the other packages I've used. It has an extremely powerful macro >language which allows creation of menu bars, full feature dialog boxes, But can it display 24 lines by 80 columns on a VGA without going into a full screen mode? If it does, I'll buy it on the spot, but I bet it doesn't. Here is my tale of woe & intrigue. All I need is a dumb async terminal emulator that can show 24 lines by 80 columns of fixed font in a window smaller (maybe just a bit) than a full-screen. According to my calculations, this is theoretically possible (5x10 or 7x12 pixel character cells for example). MS Window Terminal does not do this, so I looked around. I was assured by Dynacomm rep that their emulator can do this. So I shelled a fortune for it, and guess what? It tries to emulate a smaller font by BitBlt-ing large font character to smaller size -- one character at a time! Which 1) makes the characters unreadable and 2) makes the whole thing run abominably slow. I can't believe that they actually get away with selling this junkware for a small fortune. After that experience, I gave up on terminal emulators, since I had a dumb terminal sitting there anyway for Codeview. Now that 3.0 cvw can't use it, I had to replace the dumb terminal with b/w monitor, but I need a dumb terminal emulator. Anybody knows of one? I am willing to pay (again) mucho bucks. But this time I want a demo disk first!! Peter Pavlovcik, att!iexist!peter
gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) (08/30/90)
Peter, Crosstalk for Windows allows you to select smaller screen fonts (that are not drawn one character at a time) and therefore display a 24x80 screen in a substantially reduced window.
leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) (08/31/90)
In article <1990Aug29.192338.25085@cbnewsc.att.com> peter@cbnewsc.att.com (peter.pavlovcik) writes: >But can it display 24 lines by 80 columns on a VGA without going into >a full screen mode? If it does, I'll buy it on the spot, but I bet >it doesn't. I am currently using WinQvt4.3 (off of cica.cica.indiana.edu) and as we speak, the window occupies (while in 80x24) 1/2 of the screen's vertical space, & 3/4 of the horizontal space, all this while in LARGE mode. In the small mode, the space used is 1/3 vertical & 1/2 horizontal, but the text is barely readable. I should point out that I am not using the correct screen font as I have not yet registered the program (I have only used it ~1.5hrs). The program is Shareware ($50) and appears to work leoh@hdw.csd.harris.com Leo Hinds (305)973-5229 Gfx ... gfx ... :-) whfg orpnhfr V "ebg"grq zl fvtangher svyr lbh guvax V nz n creireg ?!!!!!!? ... znlor arkg gvzr
peter@cbnewsc.att.com (peter.pavlovcik) (09/01/90)
In article <846@travis.csd.harris.com>, leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) writes: > I am currently using WinQvt4.3 (off of cica.cica.indiana.edu) and as we speak, > the window occupies (while in 80x24) 1/2 of the screen's vertical space, & 3/4 > of the horizontal space, all this while in LARGE mode. In the small mode, the ... > > The program is Shareware ($50) and appears to work Not for me it doesn't. When accessing a unix machine and trying to run emacs (Montgomery's), I get a number of "black boxes" scattered across the screen, although the screen looks OK overall. I played with it for a while, but could not make it work. The standard Win3.0 terminal emulator DOES NOT DO THIS (at the same speed) and works just fine. Except, of course, takes up the whole screen. Also wn100k emulator works just fine, but again, it only uses a large courier font. So the problem seems to be in WinQVT. In case someone thinks of a possible fix, here are a few facts: 1) no characters appear to be lost or mangled, 2) in every case, the boxes seem to "overwrite" only whitespaces, 3) symptoms are independent of speed (110 baud and 9600 baud) and of whether flow control is on or off, 4) comm parameters are 8bits + 1 stop, no parity 5) TERM=vt100 both on the host and in the WinQVT, 6) there seems to be some relationship between the terminal control characters and the black boxes -- there is always whole bunch of them at the beginning of the file and around tabs. So I'm still looking for a 24x80 dumb terminal emulator, Peter Pavlovcik, att!iexist!peter
leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) (09/06/90)
In article <1990Aug31.184035.9324@cbnewsc.att.com> peter@cbnewsc.att.com (peter.pavlovcik) writes: >Not for me it doesn't. When accessing a unix machine and trying to run >emacs (Montgomery's), I get a number of "black boxes" scattered across I tried it (right now) with GNUemacs ... no problem ... >5) TERM=vt100 both on the host and in the WinQVT, I am using it as a VT200 ... >6) there seems to be some relationship between the terminal control > characters and the black boxes -- there is always whole bunch > of them at the beginning of the file and around tabs. possibly in your termcap/terminfo for the VT100 ? leoh@hdw.csd.harris.com Leo Hinds (305)973-5229 Gfx ... gfx ... :-) whfg orpnhfr V "ebg"grq zl fvtangher svyr lbh guvax V nz n creireg ?!!!!!!? ... znlor arkg gvzr