michal@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Merlin The Magician) (09/04/90)
This is probably very naive, but is it true that win 3.0 when running non-windows applications cannot use memory beyond 640k for those applications ? I have tried unsuccessfully to run Kermit and MicroEmacs at the same time (386 enhanced mode). The windows applications are smart enough to use mem beyond 640. My gut feeling is that the only way to increase memory for those applications is to romove as much junk from config.sys and autoexec.bat (like tsr and device drv) or put those into high mem. Please correct me if I am wrong. If such is the case, I would appreciate pointers on how to put the drivers into high mem in order to maximize the low memory. My primary reason for getting windows was the 386 enhanced mode. The multitasking if you insist. It all works well, and as well as I have probably expected it to work. The glitch seems to be the non-windows applications still stuck < 640K ! Where can I find win 3.0 shareware ? (ftp). -- Merlin [The Magician] (AKA Michal Chmielewski) US Mail: Academic Computing Services, Univ. of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045, USA E-mail : michal@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, michal@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T (913)-864-0443
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) (09/05/90)
In article <25405.26e37c81@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> michal@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Merlin The Magician) writes: > > This is probably very naive, but is it true that win 3.0 when >running non-windows applications cannot use memory beyond 640k for >those applications ? I have tried unsuccessfully to run Kermit and >MicroEmacs at the same time (386 enhanced mode). The windows >applications are smart enough to use mem beyond 640. > My gut feeling is that the only way to increase memory for those >applications is to romove as much junk from config.sys and >autoexec.bat (like tsr and device drv) or put those into high mem. > Please correct me if I am wrong. If such is the case, I would >appreciate pointers on how to put the drivers into high mem in order >to maximize the low memory. > My primary reason for getting windows was the 386 enhanced mode. The >multitasking if you insist. It all works well, and as well as I have >probably expected it to work. The glitch seems to be the non-windows >applications still stuck < 640K ! > Where can I find win 3.0 shareware ? (ftp). Any particular non-windows application is still bound by the limitations of DOS and therefore can only run in a virtual '86 window using that capability of the 386 architecture. The amount of memory actually available is roughly the same as it was before windows was started. Loading drivers and TSR's into high memory will help to give more for each window. You can however have as many of these virtual windows open at once based upon your total memory. I routinely open 5+ such windows using my 386-35 with 8Meg of ram. Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254
steve@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Steve Mitchell) (09/08/90)
A good way to push those nasty memory hogs up into hi memory is with Quarterdeck's _new_ QEMM, version 5.1 (I think). They re-hacked it to cohabitate with Windows 3.0 -- - Steve Mitchell steve@cps.altadena.ca.us grian!steve@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov ames!elroy!grian!steve "God is licht, an in him there is nae mirkness ava." -- 1 John 1:5