[comp.windows.ms] Actor and Smalltalk for win 3.0

pcb@gator.cacs.usl.edu (Peter C. Bahrs) (09/05/90)

After 2.5 years of serious sdk development with C, I am  going to give
the OO approaches to windows development a shot.   

I have used st/v and st/286 (donated) and actor 1.? (donated).  
Both were somewhat slow ... but I am totally convinced about the benefits 
of OO development from other projects and from rapid prototyping using both
of the above.  (Unfortunately, the actor upgrade is $90 though the st
upgrade will be donated again) (donation because of our research ....don't
ask).

Any way, who is using Actor 3.0?  I mean seriously.  I have a 30000 line
C program that I want to re-develope in Actor.  I understand that
multiple inheritance is not/or is supported...you have to change something
in the interpreter.  The sales person said 'we recommend that you don't
use multiple inheritance'.  Then why support it??????????????

And who is using ST for windows.  ....basically the same concern as above.

Are ALL of the features of the SDK and win 3.0 available through either
interface?  Are there any cludged protocols that I must follow in order
to obtain the same functionality?

Please respond by email or to the net.

p.s.  I am also investigating using Zortech C++ but like the others,
although the price is minimal, evaluating numerous platforms becomes
expensive very fast.


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CHRIS_LAVENDER_WADE@cup.portal.com (09/10/90)

In my experience, Digitalk's Smalltalk is significantly faster than Actor.
Digitalk will ship Smalltalk Windows in December (I am told). It is very
similar to Smalltalk V/PM which is very good. For performance sensitive
parts of your code, you can use DLLs. Code development should take 25-50%
of the time you will spend on C.