rzi@philpav.tds.philips.se (Roman Zielinski) (09/06/90)
We had discovered some problems with Micrografx Designer 3.01 running under windows 3.0. If You create for example an organisational chart (you know boxes with text inside) and then copy it to the clipboard (default clipboard attributes) and try to exit Designer, you will get an "Unexpected application error" (do you know about expected appl errors :-> ). It is 100% reproducable. If you create an org chart without text (or remove the text) and copy to the clipboard, then exit works OK.... Does anyone know if it is a bug? Or maybe a way around it? Something to avoid in designer? Other thing seems to work (slowly but however they work)... Please help! Roman +-------------------------------------------+ _--~--_ | Roman M. Zielinski | ---- / \ ---- | Philips Tele & Data System AB | ---- ( |^^^| ) ---- | S-115 84 Stockholm, Sweden | ---- \ \ / / --- | tel +46 8 782 1373 | |=====| +-------------------------------------------+ |=====| | NET ADDR: uunet!mcsun!sunic!philpav!rzi | |=====| +-------------------------------------------+ ~~U~~
spolsky-joel@cs.yale.edu (Joel Spolsky) (09/06/90)
In article <454@philpav.tds.philips.se> rzi@philpav.tds.philips.se (Roman Zielinski) writes: | We had discovered some problems with Micrografx Designer 3.01 running | under windows 3.0. If You create for example an organisational chart | (you know boxes with text inside) and then copy it to the clipboard | (default clipboard attributes) and try to exit Designer, you will get | an "Unexpected application error" (do you know about expected appl | errors :-> ). It is 100% reproducable. This is definitely a bug. I would give any odds that this is caused be delayed rendering. Delayed rendering means that when you put something in the clipboard, you don't actually put anything there, you just put a *promise* in there. Then when somebody tries to read the clipboard, Windows signals you to make good on your promise. This is useful when applications (e.g. Excel) have the ability to provide the same data in about 10 different formats. Instead of wasting memory by providing all 10 formats in the clipboard, you just issue 10 promises, and then you only have to render those formats that are needed. The catch is that when your application exits, windows will call in ALL the IOU's, because it knows that you won't be around to render them any more. So what is likely happening is that your application isn't correctly handling render requests. Call them up and yell at them; they will probably be glad for the bug report. Technically, by the way, an "Unexpected Application Error" is almost always a reference to a pointer that is outside of the program's segments (what VAX fans call a Segmentation Error). Somebody is using a bad pointer somewhere. Joel Spolsky spolsky@cs.yale.edu Talk Hard.
brad@cup.portal.com (Paul B Anders) (09/07/90)
I had the same problem. The "fix" is to use one of the Designer outline fonts instead of the printer fonts. I am using the W3 postscript driver, not the Micrografx postscript driver (which failed also, and would not work at all with WfW). Don't ask me why it fails or why this fix works... Brad brad@cup.portal.com
jmerrill@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Confusion Reigns) (09/07/90)
My Disk 3 of the Designer 3.01 update (1.2MB) has a bad sector in the middle of drivers1.lzh, corrupting wfm.exe. Since I need this file for the Micrografx PS driver, could someone mail it to me? Thanks a lot. -- Jason Merrill jmerrill@jarthur.claremont.edu jmerrill@hmcvax.bitnet uunet!jarthur!jmerrill
uh@materna.uucp (Uwe Hoch) (09/11/90)
In article <26026@cs.yale.edu> spolsky-joel@cs.yale.edu (Joel Spolsky) writes: >In article <454@philpav.tds.philips.se> rzi@philpav.tds.philips.se >(Roman Zielinski) writes: >| We had discovered some problems with Micrografx Designer 3.01 running >| under windows 3.0. If You create for example an organisational chart >| (you know boxes with text inside) and then copy it to the clipboard >| (default clipboard attributes) and try to exit Designer, you will get >| an "Unexpected application error" (do you know about expected appl >| errors :-> ). It is 100% reproducable. > >This is definitely a bug. ... > >Joel Spolsky >spolsky@cs.yale.edu Talk Hard. Call Micrografx. There is yet an update for Version 3.01 which solves this problem (New Lib!). Works quite fine: No "Unexpected application errors" any more using clipboard. Regarding Micrografx postscript driver: At out company much better than the original from Microsoft, even with WfW!!! Uwe Hoch Dr. Materna GmbH Vosskuhle 37 D-4600 Dortmund 1 West Germany Tel. : 49/231/5599-236 -237 Fax : 49/231/5599-100 E-Mail: USENET: uh@materna.uucp ..!seismo!mcvax!unido!materna!uh