[net.auto] those funny white lines

dub@pur-phy.UUCP (Dwight) (11/10/84)

   Someone mentioned that those solid white lines are good for something.
When a pedestrian who gets hit by a car while crossing between them
then it is the drivers fault.
   Are you implying that if a car hits a pedestrian who is not crossing
the street between those white lines, then it is not the drivers fault?
Aren't you saying that people in the street, but not between those lines,
are "open season" targets for drivers?

ark@alice.UUCP (Andrew Koenig) (11/12/84)

It has been mentioned that the solid white line down the
middle of a highway is useful in the event of certain accidents:
it provides something with which to charge a driver who has
not done anything else obviously wrong but gotten into
an accident anyway.

This is an example of something that many lawmakers seem to
do: pass laws that people cannot possibly obey so that when
someone does something the police don't like, they can be
arrested on "legitimat" charges.  This is the motivation,
for instance, behind many "loitering" laws.

I consider this practice reprehensible.  If certain behavior
should be illegal, MAKE IT ILLEGAL.  Don't make everything illegal
and then leave the decision up to the police.

Further discussion in net.politics, please.

phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) (11/13/84)

>    Someone mentioned that those solid white lines are good for something.
> When a pedestrian who gets hit by a car while crossing between them
> then it is the drivers fault.

(minor flame: you call that last sentence English?)
Recently I read in the San Jose Mercury News that a woman crossing
the street against the DONT WALK light was hit and killed by a left
turning car. The driver was not cited. The pedestrian was in the
crosswalk but the light was against her. So much for assigning
fault to the driver.

I have also read of pedestrians being run over on the freeway.
The driver never gets cited; it's open season on anyone unfortunate
enough to be on foot on the freeway (suppose you ran out of gas).

These incidents happened in California, your laws may vary.
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wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (11/13/84)

A few of you are missing the point on the white line issue.
Take a look at where the solid white lines (or yellow in some
cases) are painted.  They are usually painted in an area that
precludes the driver from seeing oncoming traffic from a safe
distance.  Take note that the lines are drawn before hills
and curves and at on-ramps (N.J.).  If you will notice the lines,
you can tell when there is a curve or hill coming.  Of course,
you can go ahead and ignore the warnings, but if you should go 
ahead and pass in one of these zones and you meet up with a
Greyhound bus, your heirs can always say that you didn't believe in
laws and were a true individual.  Some of these laws may sound
stupid to you folks, but there is a grain of safety built into them
just to keep the stupid from pasting themselves all over the front 
of someone elses car.  It is too bad that we have to legislate
safe driving, but there are just too many lunkheads out there
who do not understand why they should keep off the other side
of the street when approaching a hill or curve.  I know, I know,
your too smart to do anything stupid, but how about the other guy?
T. C. Wheeler