LK-AP@finou.oulu.fi (09/17/90)
Hello again,
I wrote last week about bug in Screen Peace v 1.2 screen saver.
I got many answers, thanks to You all.
I forgot to tell, that used HDC EXPRESS as a shell. (HDS's screen
saver option disabled.) I made some tests and now i am convinced
that there is a BUG IN HDC EXPRESS. Specially when used as a shell
from system.ini I think Express made some conflicts also with WFW's
disk I/O, because i was faced same "thrown out of Windows -broblem"
twice before without Screen Peace. -Nah, HDC Express was slow anyway.
I think I'll give up Express and wait that promising new product what
makes "Mac interface for Windows" (I saw the demo from CICA.CICA...
maybe the name was CBM ??).
Have a nice day,
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|-------------------------|---------------------------------|brad@cup.portal.com (Paul B Anders) (09/18/90)
Mr Antti Peltonen writes : >Hello again, > I wrote last week about bug in Screen Peace v 1.2 screen saver. > I got many answers, thanks to You all. > > I forgot to tell, that used HDC EXPRESS as a shell. (HDS's screen > saver option disabled.) I made some tests and now i am convinced > that there is a BUG IN HDC EXPRESS. Specially when used as a shell > from system.ini I think Express made some conflicts also with WFW's > disk I/O, because i was faced same "thrown out of Windows -broblem" > twice before without Screen Peace. -Nah, HDC Express was slow anyway. > I think I'll give up Express and wait that promising new product what > makes "Mac interface for Windows" (I saw the demo from CICA.CICA... > maybe the name was CBM ??). The problem as described before was : 1. SP 1.2 running as icon 2. Open File Manager ( or Open File from WFW, Write, etc. ), and try to access drive a: without a disk in the drive 3. Get error message, click on "Cancel" 4. System locks up. I also am using SP 1.2 as an icon, HDC Express ( as the shell from system.ini ) with the screen saver option disabled, and have no problem with clicking "Cancel" from any application when trying to access a non- existant disk in drive a: I have this setup on two systems. One system is an Intel 302 386/25 system, with 8MB RAM, Paradise VGA+16, the other is an IBM PC/AT w/ and Intel Inboard 386, w/ various RAM boards, Paradise VGA+16. Could you please describe your system setup? There seem to be some users with the problem you describe, and about the same number without the problem. Maybe there is a specific video card or system component that is sensitve to the problem. Brad brad@cup.portal.com
jls@hsv3.UUCP (James Seidman) (09/18/90)
In article <33995@cup.portal.com> brad@cup.portal.com (Paul B Anders) writes: >The problem as described before was : >1. SP 1.2 running as icon >2. Open File Manager ( or Open File from WFW, Write, etc. ), and > try to access drive a: without a disk in the drive >3. Get error message, click on "Cancel" >4. System locks up. To try to resolve this debate, I actually (gasp!) read the documentation which came with Screen Peace. It says in there that the author found out about that bug, feels very bad about releasing the program with that bug in there, and has since fixed it. The version currently on cica.cica.indiana.edu does NOT have this problem. I don't think it has anything to do with system setup or the like... -- Jim Seidman (Drax), the accidental engineer. "There's a certain freedom to being completely screwed." - The Freshman UUCP: ames!vsi1!headland!jls ARPA: jls%headland.UUCP@ames.nasa.arc.gov
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russell Poffenberger) (09/18/90)
In article <33995@cup.portal.com> brad@cup.portal.com (Paul B Anders) writes: >Mr Antti Peltonen writes : > >>Hello again, >> I wrote last week about bug in Screen Peace v 1.2 screen saver. >> I got many answers, thanks to You all. >> >> I forgot to tell, that used HDC EXPRESS as a shell. (HDS's screen >> saver option disabled.) I made some tests and now i am convinced >> that there is a BUG IN HDC EXPRESS. Specially when used as a shell >> from system.ini I think Express made some conflicts also with WFW's >> disk I/O, because i was faced same "thrown out of Windows -broblem" >> twice before without Screen Peace. -Nah, HDC Express was slow anyway. >> I think I'll give up Express and wait that promising new product what >> makes "Mac interface for Windows" (I saw the demo from CICA.CICA... >> maybe the name was CBM ??). > >The problem as described before was : > >1. SP 1.2 running as icon >2. Open File Manager ( or Open File from WFW, Write, etc. ), and > try to access drive a: without a disk in the drive >3. Get error message, click on "Cancel" >4. System locks up. > >I also am using SP 1.2 as an icon, HDC Express ( as the shell from >system.ini ) with the screen saver option disabled, and have no problem >with clicking "Cancel" from any application when trying to access a non- >existant disk in drive a: > >I have this setup on two systems. One system is an Intel 302 386/25 system, >with 8MB RAM, Paradise VGA+16, the other is an IBM PC/AT w/ and Intel >Inboard 386, w/ various RAM boards, Paradise VGA+16. > >Could you please describe your system setup? There seem to be some users with >the problem you describe, and about the same number without the problem. Maybe >there is a specific video card or system component that is sensitve to the >problem. > I second this, I cannot duplicate the Screen Peace problem mentioned in a previous post. Perhaps V 1.2 has fixed the problem. BTW, look for a REAL NEAT Screen Peace saver module from me real soon now. I am testing it thoroughly for a few days. Please e-mail if there is interest (Not sure how popular Screen Peace is because of the bad rap it has gotten lately.) I will probably upload to to cica.cica.indiana.edu, and submit it to c.b.i.p. If there is enough interest, and nobody objects, perhaps I will post it here. Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254
jml00458@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jean Michael Liddle) (09/19/90)
In article <1990Sep18.160813.28084@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russell Poffenberger) writes: > >I second this, I cannot duplicate the Screen Peace problem mentioned in a >previous post. Perhaps V 1.2 has fixed the problem. > Taken from the scrnpeac.doc file: [1.2 Screen Peace 1.2 additions] Lots of bugs fixed! 2. The problem with non-readable disks is fixed (if this happened to you, you probably clicked on a floppy drive icon in the program manager when there was no disk in the drive). This was a bad bug and I apologize for releasing Screen Peace with it there. I hope it didn't cause any major problems. The cause, in case you're interested was a call to the C library time() function in a bad place. Anyway, the DLL is about half its previous size. The bug has been fixed in V 1.2 available from cica.cica.indiana.edu. I'm using SCREANPEACE and am delighted with it. It has not interfered with any downloading I've been doing (and at 2400 baud it sometimes takes long enough for the screen saver to kick in), nor have I had any problems when I've tried to read a nonexistent disk in drive a:. Related to the nonexistent disk issue though, I have spotted what I believe to be a small, annoying, but thus far harmless bug in MS Windows. When trying to read an empty drive A: or write to a write protected diskette from a DOS Window I suddenly get kicked into the FULL SCREEN setting (i.e. my DOS Window is no longer a window ...) with the usual prompt "abort, retry, fail ...". Anyone else experience this? >BTW, look for a REAL NEAT Screen Peace saver module from me real soon now. I am >testing it thoroughly for a few days. Please e-mail if there is interest (Not >sure how popular Screen Peace is because of the bad rap it has gotten lately.) > >I will probably upload to to cica.cica.indiana.edu, and submit it to c.b.i.p. >If there is enough interest, and nobody objects, perhaps I will post it here. > I'm looking forward to your module. I'll check out indiana in a few days! -- Jean
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russell Poffenberger) (09/20/90)
In article <1990Sep19.041204.8490@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jml00458@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jean Michael Liddle) writes: >In article <1990Sep18.160813.28084@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russell Poffenberger) writes: >> >>I second this, I cannot duplicate the Screen Peace problem mentioned in a >>previous post. Perhaps V 1.2 has fixed the problem. >> [stuff deleted] > >Related to the nonexistent disk issue though, I have spotted what I >believe to be a small, annoying, but thus far harmless bug in MS Windows. >When trying to read an empty drive A: or write to a write protected >diskette from a DOS Window I suddenly get kicked into the FULL SCREEN >setting (i.e. my DOS Window is no longer a window ...) with the usual >prompt "abort, retry, fail ...". Anyone else experience this? > I too have noticed this. When I have a DOS window open, and get such an error message, the window pops to full screen mode. Not sure why... I then use alt- enter to restore it. >>BTW, look for a REAL NEAT Screen Peace saver module from me real soon now. I am >>testing it thoroughly for a few days. Please e-mail if there is interest (Not >>sure how popular Screen Peace is because of the bad rap it has gotten lately.) >> >>I will probably upload to to cica.cica.indiana.edu, and submit it to c.b.i.p. >>If there is enough interest, and nobody objects, perhaps I will post it here. >> > >I'm looking forward to your module. I'll check out indiana in a few days! > ITS HERE!! I just uploaded it to cica... It is in the pub/pc/win3/uploads directory (mazespx.zip). Look for it to be moved to the util directory as soon as the administrator checks it out. I have also submitted it to c.b.i.p, but the latency there runs as much as 4 weeks. It you don't have ftp access, e-mail me and I will mail it back. If there is a lot of interest, and no one objects, I could post it here, it isn't big, only about 6500 bytes uuencoded zip file, but I don't want to offend anyone. Please let me know if I shouldn't post here. Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254