a752@mindlink.UUCP (Bruce Dunn) (11/21/90)
In chronological order: 1) I discovered that on my machine, in Word for Windows 1.1, in page view mode, that if I reduced the margins from the default value of 1.25 inches to 1 inch and then paged up to the head of the page I could reproducibly cause WfW to crash with an "unrecoverable application error". 2) I posted a description of this phenomenon, and asked if anyone could replicate it. 3) I received 6 E-mailed replies which stated that the persons involved could not reproduce the bug. 4) I posted a message concluding that the bug was probably a quirk of my machine and that I was dropping the subject. 5) I promptly received two additional messages from people who *could* reproduce the bug (Charles Bennett with an IBM PS/2 55SX, and Bill Hyde with an AT&T 6312 WGS (286). (I am using a Sanyo 386 DX). 6) I then received a message from Edward Thorp, in Microsoft Word for Windows development. He stated: "Yes, this is a bug. We also found it, but not until WfW 1.1 was out. It will be corrected in the next release." It's nice to see that Microsoft is apparently monitoring this USENET group, although it would have been even nicer for Microsoft to post information about known bugs. Thank you everyone for your participation in unravelling this mystery, even those who sent me mail without a signature line to indicate who they were (hint, hint). -- Bruce Dunn Vancouver, Canada a752@mindlink.UUCP
a752@mindlink.UUCP (Bruce Dunn) (11/24/90)
> papa@pollux.usc.edu writes: > Person: Marco Papa > > I recently noticed that all my WfW files have some extra stuff either at the > beginning or the end of the files. This stuff NEVER showes up when editiong > the document with WfW, but it does show up when checking the content of the > files by using MORE or TYPE for example. It seems that this extra data can > come from duplicating porions of the same file, or be the contents of other > files being edited at the same time, or even random memory data. > > Has anybody noticed this strange behavior? All word processors have to save not only the text of your document, but also information on formatting, the printer that you have selected etc. etc. In WfW this is saved at the beginning and end of the text. WfW also has a fast save mode in which if you for example add a paragraph in the middle of the document, the new paragraph and instructions on where it goes are appended to the document. Parts of your text may thus not be in linear order until the document is saved with the "fast save" option turned off. -- Bruce Dunn Vancouver, Canada a752@mindlink.UUCP
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (11/25/90)
I recently noticed that all my WfW files have some extra stuff either at the beginning or the end of the files. This stuff NEVER showes up when editiong the document with WfW, but it does show up when checking the content of the files by using MORE or TYPE for example. It seems that this extra data can come from duplicating porions of the same file, or be the contents of other files being edited at the same time, or even random memory data. Has anybody noticed this strange behavior? -- Marco P.S.: The version of WfW I am running is run from MS SQL Server -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
akm@cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) (11/26/90)
In article <28377@usc> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: >I recently noticed that all my WfW files have some extra stuff either at the >beginning or the end of the files. This stuff NEVER showes up when editiong >the document with WfW, but it does show up when checking the content of the >files by using MORE or TYPE for example. It seems that this extra data can >come from duplicating porions of the same file, or be the contents of other >files being edited at the same time, or even random memory data. I would guess that you are using the fast save mode, where word just puts in information about what changed, it does not make a full save. I would also guess that if you told it not to use fast save, then you would not see any extra stuff. kartik -- Anant Kartik Mithal akm@cs.uoregon.edu Network Manager, (503)346-4408 (msgs) Department of Computer Science, (503)346-4156 (direct) University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1202
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (11/27/90)
In article <1990Nov25.211455.21273@cs.uoregon.edu> akm@cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes: |In article <28377@usc| papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: ||I recently noticed that all my WfW files have some extra stuff either at the ||beginning or the end of the files. This stuff NEVER showes up when editiong ||the document with WfW, but it does show up when checking the content of the ||files by using MORE or TYPE for example. It seems that this extra data can ||come from duplicating porions of the same file, or be the contents of other ||files being edited at the same time, or even random memory data. | |I would guess that you are using the fast save mode, where word just |puts in information about what changed, it does not make a full save. |I would also guess that if you told it not to use fast save, then you |would not see any extra stuff. Yep, I turned off Fast Save, and the extra stuff disappeared. Thanks to all that suggested the fix. -- Marco -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=