[comp.windows.ms] 386 Enhanced mode slowdown

mikew@proton.LCS.MIT.EDU (Michael B. Williams) (11/17/90)

A quick update for those (apparently very few of us) who are trying to figure out why
DOS programs run so slowly in 386 Enhanced mode.  First off, some non-reasons:

	1.  `Monitor ports' box checked
	2.  Other Programs are running in background
	3.  Using an SX versus a DX (from RONJ@lampf.lanl.gov)
	4.  Lack of memory
	5.  `Exclusive' box not checked
	6.  ?

If anyone has any things that they've tried but do not solve the problem, feel free to
add to the list.  I'd like to go back to 386 Enhanced mode, but not with at a 60%
speed penalty!
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peterdur@microsoft.UUCP (Peter Durham) (11/27/90)

In article <1990Nov16.195853.28171@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> mikew@proton.LCS.MIT.EDU (Michael B. Williams) writes:
>A quick update for those (apparently very few of us) who are trying to 
>figure out why DOS programs run so slowly in 386 Enhanced mode.  First
>off, some non-reasons:
>
>	1.  `Monitor ports' box checked
>	2.  Other Programs are running in background
>	3.  Using an SX versus a DX (from RONJ@lampf.lanl.gov)
>	4.  Lack of memory
>	5.  `Exclusive' box not checked
>	6.  ?
>
>If anyone has any things that they've tried but do not solve the problem,
>feel free to add to the list.  I'd like to go back to 386 Enhanced mode,
>but not with at a 60% speed penalty!

How about one thing that might?

I remember when I first installed Windows 3.0 that I had trouble getting a
favorite DOS mode game running at anywhere near the right speed.  I twiddled
a lot of the PIF file options and finally got something that worked.  I just
went back and narrowed it down to one, and here it is:

Detect Idle Time

According to the help file, "Some applications will not run correctly with
this option selected.  The only way to determine if the appplication will
work is to select this option and see if it runs more slowly.  If not, leaving
this box checked will allow other applications in the background to run
faster."

I also noted that unchecking monitor ports made the graphics update more
crisply, but it did not make much difference in terms of speed.

Hope this helps!

Disclaimer: I'm not in the Windows group, nor do I speak for them; I just
like their product.

- Peter

mikew@proton.LCS.MIT.EDU (Michael B. Williams) (12/01/90)

In article <59322@microsoft.UUCP>, peterdur@microsoft.UUCP (Peter Durham) writes:
|> In article <1990Nov16.195853.28171@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> mikew@proton.LCS.MIT.EDU (Michael B. Williams) writes:
|> >A quick update for those (apparently very few of us) who are trying to 
|> >figure out why DOS programs run so slowly in 386 Enhanced mode.  First
|> >off, some non-reasons:
|> >
|> >	1.  `Monitor ports' box checked
|> >	2.  Other Programs are running in background
|> >	3.  Using an SX versus a DX (from RONJ@lampf.lanl.gov)
|> >	4.  Lack of memory
|> >	5.  `Exclusive' box not checked
|> >	6.  ?
|> >
|> >If anyone has any things that they've tried but do not solve the problem,
|> >feel free to add to the list.  I'd like to go back to 386 Enhanced mode,
|> >but not with at a 60% speed penalty!
|> 
|> How about one thing that might?
|> 
|> I remember when I first installed Windows 3.0 that I had trouble getting a
|> favorite DOS mode game running at anywhere near the right speed.  I twiddled
|> a lot of the PIF file options and finally got something that worked.  I just
|> went back and narrowed it down to one, and here it is:
|> 
|> Detect Idle Time
|> 
|> According to the help file, "Some applications will not run correctly with
|> this option selected.  The only way to determine if the appplication will
|> work is to select this option and see if it runs more slowly.  If not, leaving
|> this box checked will allow other applications in the background to run
|> faster."
|> 
|> I also noted that unchecking monitor ports made the graphics update more
|> crisply, but it did not make much difference in terms of speed.
|> 
|> Hope this helps!
|> 
|> Disclaimer: I'm not in the Windows group, nor do I speak for them; I just
|> like their product.
|> 
|> - Peter

I gave it a try, but it didn't seem to make a difference.  Applications still ran slowly,
and SI still reported a paltry 4.6.  Has anyone else had success with this?

Thanks Peter.  Any more ideas about what might be the cause?

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brian@rtf.bt.co.uk (Brian N Butterworth) (12/03/90)

In article <1990Nov30.191847.24834@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> mikew@proton.LCS.MIT.EDU (Michael B. Williams) writes:
>In article <59322@microsoft.UUCP>, peterdur@microsoft.UUCP (Peter Durham) writes:
>|> In article <1990Nov16.195853.28171@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> mikew@proton.LCS.MIT.EDU (Michael B. Williams) writes:

I've (like most of the rest of the world it seems) had problems with the
speed in 386 enhanced mode.  On a couple of machines this problem was solved
by chaning five little DIP switches on the main circuit board (of a Zenith
386) which seem to deal with caching of extended memory.  The speed increase
was very noticable.

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Brian