keogh@nixeid.UUCP (Paul Keogh) (12/20/90)
Somebody here was looking for information about X on Windows. There is a company called Visionware, 57 Cardigan Lane, Leeds LS4 2LE, UK who have a product called XVision which "turns a PC running MS Windows into an X Window system graphics terminal". I don't have the product, this is information only. Their phone number is +44 (0)532 788858. -- Paul Keogh, * People said we couldn't play SNI Software Center Ireland * That we were only foul mouth yobs Dublin, Ireland. * But the only notes that really count * Are the ones that come in wads Net: keogh@u.nix.ie *
my@dtg.nsc.com (Michael Yip) (12/20/90)
There is also a software called "X11/AT" for PC/ATs running MS Window 3.0. X11/AT runs X Window servers on a PC/AT running MS Window. It works on machines (286/386) with at least 2M Byte of RAM and ones that work with MS Window. The company which makes the software is Integrated Inference Machines. X11/AT Integrated Inference Machines (714) 939-0746 Computer Products Division 14668 East Katella Avenue Anaheim, CA 92805 -- Mike my@dtg.nsc.com PS: Again, I have no connection with IIM at all.
rdthomps@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Robert D. Thompson) (12/20/90)
In article <61@nixeid.UUCP> keogh@nixeid.UUCP (Paul Keogh) writes: >Somebody here was looking for information about X on Windows. There is a >company called Visionware, 57 Cardigan Lane, Leeds LS4 2LE, UK who have a >product called XVision which "turns a PC running MS Windows into an X >Window system graphics terminal". I don't have the product, this is information Does anyone have any comments on DesqView/X. I am sure many of you have seen the "insert" in the current issue of Dr. Dobbs Journal. --- Robert D. Thompson rdthomps@vela.acs.oakland.edu
jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) (12/20/90)
I saw the brochure for Desview X. Looks damn impressive. As far as I am concerned, QuarterDeck has a good reputation for producing fine products. But until it is available for sale, its vapourware! I was told that it would not be available until 2nd quarter of '91, if not later. Nonetheless, if it really lives up to the claims and specs in the brouchure, sign me up for a copy!! X is not great (in fact, it sucks in many regards, e.g. performance), but it will open up a whole new world for 386 PCs. Joe jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca -- ***************** "Happiness is a warm gun ... " *************** | NeXT --> The ultimate electronic publishing platform! | | Joseph Chin --> jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca | ****************************************************************
currier@duke.cs.duke.edu ( DCAC Network Comm. Specialist) (12/20/90)
Yes, I have a comment to make. Way back when, (several months ago), when Quarterdeck started publishing the tech specs for DesqViewX, I called them. No prices. No ship date. No info. No idea when they would know. I saw the insert in the latest Dr. Dobbs. So, I called again. No prices. No ship date. No info other than: "I don't know, maybe we can ship it in the first half of 1991, but we don't know yet." Frankly, I am bloody sick and tired of companies that advertise and publish tech specs for vapourware! If they don`t even know when they are going to ship, don't advertise it! It looks like a truly great product, and really caught my attention, but after the second "Don't know when", I have lost interest. I would rather install a less bleeding-edge product that is real, today. I wonder if that cover shot of all the X apps is a *real* screen shot (sure they are!), or if it was put together in ye old cut 'n paste shop? Sorry for the ramblings, Bob Currier Network Manager Duke University Durham, N.C. rdc@bobsun.ac.duke.edu P.S. Quarterdeck, if you read the net, I would *love* to be able to install many copies of your product. But if it ain't real, I can't use it!
lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape) (12/21/90)
In article <4366@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rdthomps@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Robert D. Thompson) writes: >In article <61@nixeid.UUCP> keogh@nixeid.UUCP (Paul Keogh) writes: >>Somebody here was looking for information about X on Windows. There is a >>company called Visionware, 57 Cardigan Lane, Leeds LS4 2LE, UK who have a >>product called XVision which "turns a PC running MS Windows into an X >>Window system graphics terminal". I don't have the product, this is information > > > Does anyone have any comments on DesqView/X. > > I am sure many of you have seen the "insert" in the > current issue of Dr. Dobbs Journal. > >--- >Robert D. Thompson >rdthomps@vela.acs.oakland.edu Gee, giving up on Windows 3 so soon??? I think DeswView/X is still "under-development" or something like that..... So, how you doing anyway? What type of PC do you recommend (brand name) next year? Bryon Lape
dkyoon@pollux.usc.edu (Dae-Kyun Yoon) (12/21/90)
rdthomps@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Robert D. Thompson) writes: > Does anyone have any comments on DesqView/X. > I am sure many of you have seen the "insert" in the > current issue of Dr. Dobbs Journal. I'v had a chance to take a look at the demonstration of DesqView/X at COMDEX 90'. One of the important thing about DesqView/X is you can run client programs as well as X-server. In other words, you can run x-applications on the PC together with server. So, you don't really have to be connected to the main host (or remote host) to run x-applications. At the demo, DesqView/X was running on a 386/pc conntected to the SUN (I remember it was a SUN-SPARCS), and the performance was acceptable (to me) despite running a couple of X apps on the PC. Oh, I forgot to mention this. DesqView/X had xterm-like shell application, so you could open a DOS shell-window on the SUN-Sparcs, as well as unix-shell window on the PC. The other thing I was impressed is QuaterDeck's own version of window manager. It is an icon-based object manager which is similar to Mac-interface, but to me it looked better than MS-windows ProgManger or Macintosh. QuaterDeck people told me that porting an existing X-application to DesqView/X environment wouldn't be that hard, because DesqView/X comes together with Xlib, Xtoolkit and even with OSF's Motif. But I think those hassels involved in memory management won't let the X-apps run smoothly on the PC. Anyway, overall impression about the product was very good despite the crash during the demo. (*only* one crash for 30+ minutes). Of course, this is not a release version, so I expect the releas version would be much more reliable. And, wider support for graphics devices is also expected. (Currently they support 8514/A and DGIS, right ?) -- Dae-kyun Yoon dkyoon@usc.edu, ..!uunet!usc!dkyoon