[comp.windows.ms] video boards and system configuration -- request for info

Forum2News_Exporter@mts.rpi.edu (Barry Bailey) (12/19/90)

 
   With all this talk about video resolutions, speed, colors, etc. maybe
   someone could help me decide what features to look for in a computer
   supporting high-end video equipment.
 
   For the sake of arguement I will presume that it is preferred to have
   the fastest affordable clock and most advanced CPU (25Mhz '386, 33Mhz
   '386, 50Mhz '486, etc.).
 
   After that, is it worth the expense to invest in either an EISA or
   MCA bus system (a la bus mastering); invest in some sort of CPU
   cache?; invest in some sort of advanced harddisk and controller (e.g
   SCSI, ESDI, etc.; to keep out of the way of the CPU/video processes)?
 
   I have read about SUN workstation graphics accelerators, not knowing
   really what they do -- are their similar for Windows?
 
   If eventually I want to work with 24bit color displays what are the
   highest available resolutions (e.g. 1024x768, 1240x1024, etc.)? At
   this level of technology, what hardware/software would speed up video
   displays most?
 
   barry
 
   USERE9W9@RPITSMTS
 
   ps
 
   maybe answers to these and similar questions could be added to the
   FAQ file?
 

jimf@idayton.field.intel.com (Jim Fister) (12/30/90)

>   With all this talk about video resolutions, speed, colors, etc. maybe
>   someone could help me decide what features to look for in a computer
>   supporting high-end video equipment.
> 
>   After that, is it worth the expense to invest in either an EISA or
>   MCA bus system (a la bus mastering); invest in some sort of CPU
>   cache?; invest in some sort of advanced harddisk and controller (e.g
>   SCSI, ESDI, etc.; to keep out of the way of the CPU/video processes)?
> 
In most of the cases that I've seen, there are two good ways to speed up
any windowing system.  Or any system, for that matter.  The first is to
get a fast disk drive.  The fastest EISA of MCA or ISA controller in the
world is pretty useless if you're running with a 28ms drive.  As long as
I'm inserting personal opinion, IDE seems the way to go.  Most of the
reliable vendors have 18ms or 19ms drives with the cache activated.  A good
drive card running with a fast drive will help with disk swapping, access,
and data transfer.

The other good idea, esp. for windowing, is to get a fast video card.
Did you say something about graphics accellerators?

>   I have read about SUN workstation graphics accelerators, not knowing
>   really what they do -- are their similar for Windows?

Some.  I know Microfield Graphics (somewhere in Oregon) has a bit-slice
graphics board with Windows and UNIX drivers.  I've seen it run X; it sings.
There's a couple others out there, but I can't remember them.

>   If eventually I want to work with 24bit color displays what are the
>   highest available resolutions (e.g. 1024x768, 1240x1024, etc.)? At
>   this level of technology, what hardware/software would speed up video
>   displays most?
> 

Uh...anyone else?

Greetings from the Rocking Metropolis.

JimF

gwe@cbnews.att.com (George W. Erhart) (12/30/90)

I have a friend that is "playing" with a live video board ... that is, a
board from Matrox that can digitize video in real-time and display
on any VGA card that has the VGA feature connector. The real question of
bus speed tends to be an issue if the source for the video display is
from a disk (CD ROM or other). In these cases, the data transfer rate for
the back plane must be high enough to avoid the nasty flicker.

For example, I have a disk drive containing a sequence of digitized
video images that form an animated sequence. I wish to display them 
on a 1 megapixel display with 8 bit planes (256 colors). To display 
a single image (frame) will require transfering 1 megabyte of data 
from the disk to the display.  The standard video refresh rate is 
30 frames per second. Thus, the transfer rate from disk to display 
will need to be 30 Megabytes per second. The ISA bus is not capable 
of this speed. Both MCA and EISA are capable of this rate. However, 
realize 2 things, at 1 megabyte per frame, 30 megabytes per second, 
you will need a lot of disk space AND finding a disk drive that will be
able to get 30 megabytes per second off the disk will be expensive. 
(The newest ESDI drives are ~15 megaBITS per second.) Now project this
to a 24 bit color system ... 3 megabytes per frame!!!

A lot of work is being done in the area of image compression. Several
new chips are on the market that will compress/uncompress in real-time 
with minimal loss of image quality. These chips can significantly cut the
amount of data that must be stored.

If you are simply interested in watching the Finacial News Network in
a window on your VGA display ... you can do this now with off the
shelf hardware/software with the ISA bus, using the VGA feature connector.

Hope this helps. 

(Disclaimer: I am not promoting Matrox products. It just happens to be the
hardware I am most familar with.)

-- 
George Erhart
AT&T Bell Laboratories
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