jeff@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Jeff Gosztyla) (09/04/90)
Has anyone heard anything about the 640x480 or 800x600 256 color
drivers from ATI? I log into their BBS fairly regularly and I haven't
seen any mention of them in over a month or two. It seems that all the
other major vendors have already released their 256 color drivers.
What's up? What is ATI doing? When will they be released?
- Jeff
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------------------------------------------------------------------------kevinc@cs.athabascau.ca (Kevin Crocker) (09/04/90)
In article <1990Sep4.102115.9260@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> jeff@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Jeff Gosztyla) writes: > > Has anyone heard anything about the 640x480 or 800x600 256 color >drivers from ATI? I log into their BBS fairly regularly and I haven't >seen any mention of them in over a month or two. It seems that all the >other major vendors have already released their 256 color drivers. >What's up? What is ATI doing? When will they be released? Dateline: Tuesday 12:00 EDT (Toronto time) Sept 4/90 Odd thing, I just phoned them at (416) 756 - 0718 and got a reasonably pleasant message that routed me through a voice messaging system and one of the prompts was that if I wanted the Win 3.0 drivers I should hit 550 (if memory serves -- I accept no blame for a faulty memory) and go from there. Kevin -- Kevin "auric" Crocker Athabasca University UUCP: ...!{alberta,ncc,attvcr}!atha!kevinc Inet: kevinc@cs.AthabascaU.CA
smv@apollo.HP.COM (Steve Valentine) (09/08/90)
In article <1990Sep4.102115.9260@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> jeff@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Jeff Gosztyla) writes:
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< Has anyone heard anything about the 640x480 or 800x600 256 color
<drivers from ATI? I log into their BBS fairly regularly and I haven't
<seen any mention of them in over a month or two. It seems that all the
<other major vendors have already released their 256 color drivers.
<What's up? What is ATI doing? When will they be released?
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< - Jeff
The bulletin board says that the 256 color driver has been indefititely
postponed 8-<.
Steve Valentine - smv@apollo.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Systems Division, Chelmsford, MA
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#include <standard_disclaimer.hpp>grate@flash.bellcore.com (Gerry Grate) (09/27/90)
I am faced with two problems concerning with Windows 3.0. (1) I noticed in the MSWord for Windows v.1.1 (a.k.a. WinWord) that there's a SAVE file option to save files as a MS Word file for Macintosh (a.k.a. MacWord). Is there a softwares/hardwares/conversion-procedure to save that MacWord file onto a Macintosh formatted disk and open the MacWord file using the MSWord for Macintosh? I'm also interested in MacWord-file-to- WinWord-file conversion. (Note: I have tried sending the WinWord file to a UNIX host as a binary, then receiving it back onto a Mac as a MacBinary file--No success either). (2) I have a difficult time printing from an IBM PS/2 model 70 to an Apple Laser IINTX printer using MS Windows 3.0 --no success. Here are my connections: Printer's RS-232 port (25-pins) to PS/2's COM1 port (using a null modem connection). I also tried the LPT1 port several times. The reason for the switch to COM1 is because in the printer's USER MANUAL has specific instructions to install the printer to a MS-DOS environment. I used these commands to assign the COM port: MODE COM1:96,N,7,1,P MODE LPT1:=COM1: I set the printer's SWITCHES so that it will support MS-DOS 's POSTSCRIPT. And I also set the Windows' data transfer rate at 9600 Baud. I made sure that both printer and Windows are using the same handshake (i.e. XON/XOFF). Has anyone with a PC-to- AppleLaserPrinter successfully tried this? I'm also interested in connecting the PS/2 to AppleTalk so that the PS/2 can use other printers. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated.
fritsch@picasso.cs.unc.edu (Dan Fritsch) (10/28/90)
Rumor has it that 256-color drivers for ATI
VGAWonders are now available for anonymous ftp
on cica.cica.indiana.edu (/pub/pc/win3/uploads).
The file is called atiwin.zip and contains a
256-color driver for all VGAWonders at 800x600
and a 256-color driver at 1024x768 for their
1-Meg cards. I don't know the source of this
driver, but I imagine it is a beta version
someone uploaded. I haven't had the opportunity
to check this out yet, so don't blame me if the
above is not true.
Regards,
--Dan
- Dan Fritsch (fritsch@cs.unc.edu)
) (10/29/90)
In article <17118@thorin.cs.unc.edu>, fritsch@picasso.cs.unc.edu (Dan Fritsch) writes: > Rumor has it that 256-color drivers for ATI > VGAWonders are now available for anonymous ftp > on cica.cica.indiana.edu (/pub/pc/win3/uploads). > The file is called atiwin.zip and contains a > 256-color driver for all VGAWonders at 800x600 > and a 256-color driver at 1024x768 for their > 1-Meg cards. I don't know the source of this > driver, but I imagine it is a beta version > someone uploaded. I haven't had the opportunity > to check this out yet, so don't blame me if the > above is not true. It's no rumor as I have a copy of it. The only MAJOR drawback is that the screen writes are slowed down quite a bit. The best way to describe the change is to first run a program with direct screen writes and then change it to write using BIOS calls. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Santanu Sircar BITNET: ssircar@umaecs.bitnet University of Massachusetts/Amherst INTERNET: ssircar@ecs.umass.edu |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| "A pig ate his fill of acorns under an oak tree and then started to root around the tree. A crow remarked, `You should not do this. If you lay bare the roots, the tree will wither and die.' `Let it die,' said the pig. `Who cares so long as there are acorns?'" -"Animal Farm" by George Orwell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
dmk@cbnewsi.att.com (daniel.m.kuster..jr) (10/31/90)
In article <11184.272be0b7@ecs.umass.edu>, ssircar@ecs.umass.edu (Good writers re-write -- not write!) writes: > In article <17118@thorin.cs.unc.edu>, fritsch@picasso.cs.unc.edu (Dan Fritsch) writes: > > Rumor has it that 256-color drivers for ATI > > VGAWonders are now available for anonymous ftp > > on cica.cica.indiana.edu (/pub/pc/win3/uploads). > It's no rumor as I have a copy of it. The only MAJOR drawback is that the > screen writes are slowed down quite a bit. The best way to describe the change > is to first run a program with direct screen writes and then change it to write > using BIOS calls. Could someone PLEASE mail me a copy of these ATI 256 color drivers? My system cannot ftp to cica.cica.indiana.edu. Thanks in advance, Dan Kuster dmk@lcuxlf.ATT.COM
traiger@oxy.edu (Saul Traiger) (10/31/90)
In article <3357@ryn.esg.dec.com> yon%consl4.esg.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com (David Yon) writes: > Like most people who've eagerly tried out the new ATI 256-color >drivers, I've also come to the conclusion that the performances costs >are steep. What I'm wondering is, is this limited to ATI? Hey, all >you people with VGA cards with different chipsets (who've had 256-color >drivers for months now :-( ), is there a huge speed difference between >16-color and 256-color drivers on *your* hardware? > >David Yon >CASE Consultant I have an Orchid Prodesigner Plus on one machine, and an OEM Paradise card on another. On both machines 256 color performance is unacceptably slow. Saul Traiger traiger@oxy.edu
ejm@coyote.uucp (E.J. McKernan) (10/31/90)
In article <1990Oct30.194442.26982@cbnewsi.att.com> dmk@cbnewsi.att.com (daniel.m.kuster..jr) writes: >In article <11184.272be0b7@ecs.umass.edu>, ssircar@ecs.umass.edu (Good writers re-write -- not write!) writes: >> In article <17118@thorin.cs.unc.edu>, fritsch@picasso.cs.unc.edu (Dan Fritsch) writes: >> > Rumor has it that 256-color drivers for ATI >> > VGAWonders are now available for anonymous ftp >> > on cica.cica.indiana.edu (/pub/pc/win3/uploads). > >Could someone PLEASE mail me a copy of these ATI 256 color >drivers? My system cannot ftp to cica.cica.indiana.edu. Mail me a copy as well. Better yet. Get them to comp.binaries.ibm.pc. -- ------------------------------------------- /|_|\ Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ ( . . ) ejm@coyote.uucp \ / ejm%coyote@noao.edu
jh5y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jordan Powell Hargrave) (10/31/90)
The problem with the slowness of the 256 color drivers is not a fault of the drivers themselves, it is a hardware problem (Can you say I/O bottleneck? :-> ) Don't forget, a 1kx768 screen is 768k of memory and the CPU has to handle all the screen updates by itself. The speed of video updates on a 386 or 486 is also not very great, as most AT buses are only 16 bits. (:-( A call for EISA? :-> ) Oh well, I've rambled enough. Just my $0.02 worth. Jordan Hargrave Carnegie Mellon University
wls@doe.carleton.ca (Winston L. Sorfleet) (10/31/90)
I'm having some problems using the new mode 63h ATI driver (800x600x256). When I call up a DOS shell (with the default pif settings) full-screen I get colored blinking character garbage, until I run something that uses graphics. I've tried playing with combinations of display options to no avail. This wasn't a problem with mode 54 or 55h. My config.sys and autoexec.bat are bare-bones standard, nothing weird in them.... Has anyone else discovered this problem? Any solutions? (Incidentally, I use an ALR 386SX, V5 VGA Wonder w/ 512K). Thanks in advance -- Winston Sorfleet Public Relations Assistant, Ianus Publications wls@doe.carleton.ca sorfleet@nrcphy.nrc.ca
huis@testeng1.misemi (Stephen Hui) (11/01/90)
I couldn't access cica also. Can someone mail me the driver ? Thanks ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Stephen Hui uunet!mitel!testeng1!huis Mitel Corporation Tel: (613) 592-2122 X4959 Kanata, Ontario, CANADA Fax: (613) 592-4784
pang@db.toronto.edu (Raymond S Pang) (11/01/90)
Forget about the beta release in cica for the mement. The offical release will be available on ATI's BBS on November 5 (Next Monday).
yon%consl4.esg.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com (David Yon) (11/01/90)
In article <Ab=bNNC00WAJJ2zHRu@andrew.cmu.edu>, jh5y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jordan Powell Hargrave) writes: > The problem with the slowness of the 256 color drivers is not a fault > of the drivers themselves, it is a hardware problem (Can you say > I/O bottleneck? :-> ) Don't forget, a 1kx768 screen is 768k of memory > and the CPU has to handle all the screen updates by itself. The speed > of video updates on a 386 or 486 is also not very great, as most > AT buses are only 16 bits. (:-( A call for EISA? :-> ) > Like most people who've eagerly tried out the new ATI 256-color drivers, I've also come to the conclusion that the performances costs are steep. What I'm wondering is, is this limited to ATI? Hey, all you people with VGA cards with different chipsets (who've had 256-color drivers for months now :-( ), is there a huge speed difference between 16-color and 256-color drivers on *your* hardware? David Yon CASE Consultant
monahan@cs.nps.navy.mil (James Monahan) (11/03/90)
I've used the new 256 color driver (800x600) for about a week now. I use 2 batch files that swap in the appropriate system.ini file prior to a win/3 call. My question is: other than an ability to display neato BMP/GIF/PCX pictures and run a couple of Screen Peace extensions that recognize the 256 color palette, what have I gained by going to the 256 color driver? What other Windows software is 'enhanced' by a 256 color driver? Thanks in advance.
ms234210@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Mark T. Spence) (11/03/90)
If you are having trouble switching into a text window with the new 800X600X256 ATI drivers, just 'blindly' switch back into 80 column text mode inside the DOS window/ shell, and all will be fine. Hey, who said it was a perfect world? ------------------------------------------------------------------ From the desk of Mark Spence at ms234210@longs.lance.colostate.edu "Keep the hands off the body!"--Gadget to Dale (From 'A Fly in the Ointment')
mattm@apollo.cs.pittsburgh.edu (Matt Mossholder) (11/06/90)
The STB (Well, Tseng really wrote them) drivers are pretty slow at 256 colors too. The 800x600x16 drivers are definately quicker. However, I am only running an 8 bit card so..... --Matt mattm@apollo.gl.pitt.edu
jerry@polygen.uucp (Jerry Sheckel) (11/09/90)
In article <122055@tiger.oxy.edu> traiger@oxy.edu (Saul Traiger) writes: >In article <3357@ryn.esg.dec.com> > >I have an Orchid Prodesigner Plus on one machine, and an OEM Paradise >card on another. On both machines 256 color performance is unacceptably >slow. > Maybe, but I've compared the performance of the latest (Nov. 5) ATI 256-color drivers against the ones shipped with the Tseng-based PowerGraph card, and the ATI is noticeably slower -- the menu highlight can't even keep up with the mouse at all! Also, the ATI driver is buggy -- I've seen it leave horizontal lines on the screen after moving or resizing large windows. I've switched back to the 16 color 800x600 driver -- it is REALLY fast and bug-free! I sure hope ATI can come up with a decent 256-color driver soon. -- +-------------------+----------------------+---------------------------------+ | JERRY J. SHEKHEL | POLYGEN CORPORATION | When I was young, I had to walk | | Drummers do it... | Waltham, MA USA | to school and back every day -- | | ... In rhythm! | (617) 890-2175 | 20 miles, uphill both ways. | +-------------------+----------------------+---------------------------------+ | ...! [ princeton mit-eddie bu sunne ] !polygen!jerry | | jerry@polygen.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
) (11/11/90)
A month ago, we were complaining about the lack of a 800x600x256 driver. Now.
we're complaining about the bugs. Now there's progress!
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"A pig ate his fill of acorns under an oak tree and then started to root
around the tree. A crow remarked, `You should not do this. If you lay bare
the roots, the tree will wither and die.' `Let it die,' said the pig. `Who
cares so long as there are acorns?'" -"Animal Farm" by George Orwell
------------------------------------------------------------------------------fritsch@thing1.cs.unc.edu (01/09/91)
I thought I'd clear up some confusion about the ATI 256-color
drivers. As far as I know, the problem that occurs with the
ATI drivers in 256-color modes (640x480 and 800x600) ONLY
manifests itself on boards with the earlier BIOS chips
(V3 and maybe V4). The newer boards do not have this problem,
namely a splitting of the screen and a flicker in response to
some unknown operation (perhaps when the mouse cursor is near
the top of the screen).
So those who claim that the ATI drivers work fine on their machines
probably have a newer board installed.
IF ANYONE KNOWS OF A DRIVER RELEASE NEWER THAN THE ONE ON CICA (dated
11-5-90) PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR POST IT TO CICA.
THANKS.
Dan Fritsch (fritsch@cs.unc.edu)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill